Okay. when does this magazine come out? Love the video. Thanks for the link. He has certainly lost his PG13 image. COnsidering Bel Ami that's a good thing.
OK... I am so confused! I admit Rob is a beautiful man... but I just don't get this photoshoot or the interview. I think I've been Robsessing 4 too long... time 2 get back 2 reality.
At the risk of being fussed at... Rob is not the man I thought he was... I think this will be my last comment on this blog!
Wow He really is a shy guy! you could see the women hanging all over him, with his facial expressions being totally unaffected...nonchalant! So beautiful and totally void of ego is a rare combo! Go Rob!
I like how that video was done, it's blurry enough to not be trashy/seedy. I don't really understand how people are thinking less of him (have read a few comments like that now) - it's just a photoshoot! It's a mens mag, I think the naked ladies are agiven (yes they're skinny, but that's models for you). I still think it's tasteful, it's not like he's groping or fake-fucking them, not that that can't be tasteful of course.
sorry, but i don't like neither the photos nor the video...he looks really beatiful but i think they're using the women's body as sexual objects.
I don't like the Rob's image the photos give. Well, i don't like fashion, magazines, models, Hollywood world or being a celebrity either...sometimes i think what am i doing here? I guess i'm full of contradictions and everybody needs something to escape from rutine (and, of course, this man is gorgeous)
Estgarzo, women have been objectified since the beginning of time, sadly this little fact won't change with this magazine photo shoot. for all we know he might have felt strongly against this, but as he mentions in the interview that in comparison to all the shit that is out there, all the nakedness that is everywhere...this is at least artfully done. He doesn't even think his Mama will object too much of this shoot! and don't beat your self too much over your conflicting thoughts, your probably not alone in feeling this way :)
Wow! The things we have to suffer through for the sake of art!!!! j/k! The video is great, and I think the photo shoot is well and beautifully done. Begone PG-13 Rob!!!!!
p.s. @RPG/angie Did you get a load of the size of Rob's spats!!!! Yowza.
I tried to post a comment detailing all my thoughts but the site ate it!I love these pictures!Rob is very smart young strong sexy man...why shouldn't he be portrayed as such?!Some people obkectify him constantly in their heads but become hypocritical prudes when he puts his sexuality into print!
This has nothing to do with Kristen so stop mentioning her...he is his own man and none of us should feel compelled to scold him for his actions when we are not involved in their relationship...AT ALL!!!
Rob, for the last time,is not gay!He has had long term girlfriends and explicitly said he was straight in GQ when he was talking about LA!Do you relly think he could hide that with the attention he gets or would even try to??!
He is not a racist nor did he come across as one!He was simply echoing the authors word in an attempt to laugh at his apparent discomfort with the word actor...it wouldn't have made any sense if he had changed the wording!Rob has no filter we know that..he is a kind soul and innocent in some ways...he wouldn't even think to dissect his words because he doesn't mean any harm!
If you have been put off by this well then good riddance...he is beautiful inside and out anf thats all there is to it, of course some won't like everything he does but he's not a disney star or a virginal child...he's a grown man and needs to be seen as such!Sorry for the rant but my god some people take the whole political correct BS to a new level!
This has to be the most bizzare interview that I have ever read about Rob. I did not understand any of it, completely off the wall. He, himself, admitted he was hungover and had no idea what to say to the girls. I don't know if I like this Rob, too eccentric
you're right, women have been objectified since the beginning but, althouht this photoshoot won't change that, i think it contribute to that. These photos add more shit to the sexist culture and values.
I agree with you these photos are artfully done, but i don't like (well, i hate) the message and the image of the women they transmit. I feel attacked as a woman, my dignity as a woman.
I'm really sorry but that's what i think...and i can swear i have A LOT of conflicting thoughts every day of my fucking life...
Rob is GORGEOUS as always but i don't like this white jacket. And Rob has a strange face expression, like somebody was forcing him to be there, and take this shoot. And this models looks like objects, you don't even see their faces only bodies. They could use greek scalptures instead of, it will be much more interesting and beautiful. And i don't like the whole idea of this shoot, my first expression was, oh my he looks like the young Hugh Hefner,... oh wait but the third bunny is missing. So the best shoots are when he is alone, or with a dressed girls.
Yeah Estgarzo I understand you fully...however and sadly in today's world the big suits and the marketing machines will go to every length to SELL what they need to sell, and now they feel they need to sell Rob as the manly man and not the virginal teenage vampire, they want to give him male cred and in their skewed vision presenting him like this will do it. eh the world is so fucked up they could very well be right! Just don't feel bad though these women made a conscious decision to appear nude for the world to see. I doubt they were forced, maybe to them this is liberation from stereotype? maybe to them this is power? who knows...again the world is a strange place. I know Rob isn't for objectifying women or at least I feel he isn't. yea you're not alone again...be as conflicted as you need to be :)
Color me confused but why are people saying "this Rob" as if he has changed or something. Hasn't he always being a bit eccentric and a deep thinker especially in written interviews? It's more subdued in oral interviews (or whatever it's called) but I've always found his wordings fascinating. Wasn't it even reported a while back that he turned up to one of the twilight photoshoots hangover as well
Sorry for the double post but i just wanted to add that i think Rob needs a PR person ASAP. I loved the idea of him being withought one but already the storm is gathering over that N comment
They sell what they need to sell because there are people who buy it, and there is where we are: we can say no to that, we can stop consuming it.
Of course the models weren't forced, but they don't see this thing like me or you, maybe they just see it as "a job, fame, money..." i guess they don't think beyond that. Maybe they don't see any problem in it. And that's the problem: sexism exists because we all women allow it.
I'm so happy i'm not alone...thank you. And sorry for my english
Rob looks great in the pics asusual.... And hez very shy also...But i am unable to accept many of u taking his interview very offensively...nez being very honest and very awkwardly shy... we can see a hesitation in him when he touches the models or looks at them...Hez one of the hot and sweetest guy i have seen so far....
well this video was just great. for the negative comments...he is a 23yr old actor, he is NOT edward cullen. He does not have this "golden" image to uphold. He is going to do what he wants, say what he wants and do whoever he wants...and this article and photoshoot proves that. I love him for who he is. And for those who are not a fan anymore...were you ever a real fan of robert pattinson???
I read many of the comments about the photoshoot and the interview and all I have to say is that I’m completely disappointed..
Come on girls, it’s Rob; the same Rob who was yesterday before the photoshoot came out. You can’t be that easily affected by an interview. We have all seen lots of recorded or live interviews where we can see Rob says what he thinks with his own mouth. We always liked him for being the honest, simple, down-to-earth, thoughtful guy he is.
Rob is not Edward Cullen. He’s 23 and he does everything a 23 yo guys does. He smokes, he drinks, he has sex, he has fun. That’s the real Rob and we all knew that before this interview.
The interview is for a men’s magazine so the author can’t write it in sweet way like she would do if it was for a teen magazine. Her writing style doesn’t change who Rob is.
As for the negro comment, some of you stayed at the fact that he said ‘negro’. Did you even read the rest of the interview to see how and why he used the word? If you had, you would have understood what he meant and that he’s definitely not a racist.
Rob is neither 17 nor Edward Cullen. FACE IT!!! He’s is 23 and one of the best 23 yo. How many 23 yo guys you know who are mature, thoughtful, polite, gentle, humble and so much more?!
If you are real fans of Rob and not of the pretty boy who plays Edward Cullen then you must have faith in him!!!
OMG! I have lurked here long enough and now feel moved to comment. That man is, without a doubt, the most beautiful creature on this earth. Off to lie down now...
@rpattzgirl My thoughts exactly! It's as though this blog has been taken over by pre-pubescent girls the way people are just throwing out these pejorative comments! If this is what the Robsessed blog is turning into then God help us all - we'll just become another sappy, crappy rumour-mill blogspot and nobody wants that! Come on girls, lets retain our dignity, please! There. Rant over *takes deep breath*
Well said RPG!I pretty much said the same up above somewhere!People need reading comprehension lessons!I've never seen the Madonna/hoor complex forced onto a man so much...I mean for goodness sake!
I couldn't have said it any better myself. This man has FASCINATED me ever since he walked through those cafeteria doors in Twilight. Someone here once said "you can't put him in a box, can you?" and they were absolutely right on!!!! He is BEAUTIFUL in every sense of the word.
Wow! I slept in this morning, got a few things done and then came to see what was up on here. So much.
First, Robert Pattinson is a beautiful man. Both photo shoots are beautiful and artistically done. I will be buying both magazines.
Second, as many have said, he is a 23-year old man. He is real, he is flawed, he is complicated, he is conflicted, he is dealing with more than any of us have/could/or would want to. He will make mistakes, he will misspeak, he is human. HE IS NOT the fictional character you fell in love with. HE IS NOT Edward Cullen. Get over it.
Third, Details is a magazine for men. There are always naked women in the magazine. It's not going to change. And 99% of models are too skinny. Have you not seen any models before? Get over it.
Fourth, for those who say they are done with him, good riddance. He will be just fine with out you. For those who said that they were shocked by his comments, photos, and the KStew thing, good God people, really? Get over it.
Again, he is not a vampire named Edward Cullen. He is a human named Robert Thomas Pattinson.
as far as I am concerned, i was refering to the photoshoot in general, i'm not judging Rob (of course!).
I know it's a magazine for men and there are always naked skinny women, i'm just saying that i don't like that because it humiliates me as a woman, and that's why i'm against that. And it's not going to change because we don't do nothing to change it. We allow it.
@CL ITA Those who can't love him because of these pics live in a fantasy world. And I'm so glad that he is not Edfuckingward. Who wants Edward when there is ROB!!! HOT blooded man in flesh. These pics messed my mind so bad, I lost my coherences and it's just pics. What will he do with me in Bel Ami???
For me to read the interviw is amazing. Why ? becuse the man is my age and hes not some ego trip guy things hes the man cuz he has nakide ladise around and girls/woman screaming and faint and going cray.
As for his word vomit. Its great. Hes beign himslef not somboy els.
As for the pics. Its not vulgur.. not stupid. It would have been a bit much if he was all over them and such.
Its art.
Rant over.
Ps.. sorry about the spelling..I'll mad cuz some of the comments.
@miss_dj_sana your anger is understandable, some people are just happy to stir things up, some stick to their guns and defend whoever or whatever to the hilt, and as a fellow Brit and Rob fan since the old days of Harry P, I intend to defend Rob as such. He comes across as just being genuine and if that offends people then bully for them! In my opnion this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and is like little reception (kindergarden) aged children having an argument about cheese - completely inconsequential. J'ai fini.
@TheMissMod . Yeah some people sure love that. But one has to under.. dont they read the whole interviw before opening therie mouths. One of the best things about Rob is his honesty. Just silly and all around hurtful.
And for all the girls that dont like him anymore.. Its not playboy for godsake.
I realy like the intervjue. Its funny and honest. It seems like many fans think that Robert is Edward C, they realy need to wake up, becouse that just to damn stupid. Hes an actor. And about the gay comments. If Rob was gay, well i realy don't care. I love him for his goffy sexy way to be. And I hope i get to see Rober in many more movies.
Not only art, nudity & beauty but also everything is subjective: everyone has a different perspective...
sometimes i feel like i can't say nothing here that doesn't fit in the "obsession", i feel like i can't say a different opinion from most of people, like i can't say constructive comments...i don't have "blind faith" to anybody, so i sometimes say what i don't like or what i disagree with.
i'm just saying that i would like writing in this blog but i wouldn't like having to silence my critic perspective (as long as i don't hurt anybody, of course) My question is ¿can i do that?
Sorry because i'm aware of my poor english...
PD: please don't misinterpret my words, i'm NOT attacking anybody, i'm not adressing to nobody directly or specifically. Moreover, if you read and you think that i sound rough, i don't, i don't mean it, it's just a "language problem" (sometimes i can't find the correct words to express my ideas)
It seems to me Rob created a character for this photoshoot:a bored man, without any thrill, empty stare, he feels nothing looking directly to those models but... when he looks direct to the camera, I feel that Rob is looking directly to me (us, public), he needs me (us, public). It is my (our) attention he wants. These photos when he is looking to the camera are my favorite ones. I don`t intend to read the "interview" because I don`t waste my time. I think it isn`t "Rob" who is talking it`s one more character he creates for these "interviews". I love Rob , just the way he is: a good actor, a funny guy, smart, clever, ambitious and extremely sexy, that`s why I like to listen to him, not reading these "interviews". Oh! I hope Details has paid him very well. He deserves that, he is very cool. I love Rob all the time!!!
@rpg, rpl, Suz, CL and anyone else I missed who echoed those comments - ITA. Rob is Rob. I love his characters, but he is his own man. I can say that I am more intrigued and enamored with who he is than I was before.
And btw, the video? I. am. dead.
Maybe if I keep watching it and gazing upon the pictures my fever will break!!
EstGarZo-I second what RPG has said...everyone's entitled to their own views, and of course not everyone is going to like these photos. It's about not taking these pics or even the interview at face value, and letting Rob have more than just one side to his personality.
And don't worry about your English, it's my native language and sometimes it's difficult for me to say what I mean! =)
on the one hand, i'm very worried about not hurting anybody, i don't want to say something that may upset somebody. But, on the other hand, i would like to express my ponit of view freely. Like i said, i'm not a girl who has "blind faith" in Rob or in somebody else (even myself) so, when i see something that i don't agree with, i'd like to say it. But i feel like i can't do it here. I think over and over it before i write things which i know they won't be accepted, and most of the times i even write it.
Maybe i'm not a "fan", i'm not "robsessed"...in moments like this is when i think if i should leave, because i feel like i'm a pain in the neck to you all...that's why i'm always apologizing
Wow, some people really need to get a clue on how to read and interpret the meaning of things. Do people really not understand what Rob is saying? Is it that difficult? Some things are symbolic, some are literal, and sometimes one has to look deeper than what one sees at a superficial first glance.
As for the photos, they're hot, and pretty well done, but I can't disagree that they may be somewhat objectifying women. Now, was that Rob's idea and did he understand it? Probably not. He actually implied that he was a bit uncomfortable with it. I really think Details was trying to be tasteful--but they probably don't even understand. But that's showbusiness for you--modern culture expects stuff like this!
You're right: we can't reduce all of Rob's personality to these photos, it would be unfair.
I'm always worried about my english because misundesrtandings happen very easily...you have to consider that i take more than 50% of the words i write from wordreference.com...and i may choose the uncorrect word and mess up...;)
EstGarZo, No, don't leave, and you're not hurting anyone, you're just expressing your opinion and you're not saying anything negative about Rob, that's the difference.
I've never commented before - just lurked. Thanks for posting the video.
The bathtub pix are the sexiest pix I've ever seen. Something really sensual but also so intimate. Him sitting on the toilet with the towel in his hand? Almost lovingly.
I have to say, I wasn't thrilled with the interview. Nothing Rob said was wrong, but I felt the interviewer was making herself a lot of the story itself. I went with Rob to a restaurant, I told Rob about a sex shop, I was asked by Allen Coulter to look over the script. She was inserting herself into the narrative of the story and that's pretty much a no-no in journalism.
Anyway, I think these photos are beyond beautiful. Yeah, the models are used as props, but then that's what models are. And this is a men's magazine. It wasn't going to be like the Harpers' shoot with Rob on his knees in front of a woman. Different audience = different takes.
*just me* as it looks like no one gets over i want to express my opinion as always in the worst English but i don't mind ;).i've posted it on Thinking of Rob,but the whole article disappeared including my comment, so i will say the same things 1. the whole womankind wanted more, we got, now some of are complaining, they are like too much more. come on, you wanted it, girls were hanging themselves over his neck, wanted him to unbutton... he had them naked as they wanted... i"m going to post another comment right now
I saw all the outtakes. They were even more artsy. This photographer is brilliant.It was like looking into Rob's mind or something. The images were blinding, colorful, twisted, sexy, dark,and lighthearted. There was also the double and triple images that showed him going through a number of emotions. Kind of like having a split personalty. This was sort of deep and the vid was amazing. HOT HOT HOT...ROB PORN. Hmmm...yummy.
I am tired of all the hateful comments - love Rob or hate him, you can't have it both ways. Trust me, Rob won't do anything he doesn't want to, we have seen that in the past AND he is neither gay or racist or disrespects women! If you want to abandon him - bye bye, there are enough of us who will stand by him in whatever he wants to do
I liked the interview cos it showed how Rob is intellectual and intelligent and nosey, even though I haven't understood everything cos English is not my language. But one thing for sure, this interview didn't make me think that Rob is gay or a racist or def hates vagina lol. Too bad some ppl got it the wrong way. Rob is such a unique guy for his age.
I see all this mess (I can’t find another word so help me!) that the photoshoot caused and only one thing comes to mind right now: if a photoshoot caused all this, then what will happen when Bel Ami will be released?! God, I don’t even want to think about this… Maybe some people should try to think harder, comprehend some things, accept different points of view and become more open-minded till then…
I don’t mean to offend anyone and I want to make clear that I’m talking about people who don’t want to understand what this is about (for example this interview and the photoshoot) or they deny to accept something that is different from what they believe. (I don’t know if what I say makes sense, I’m sorry but English is not my native language)
I've been speechless since last night when all these stunning photos arrived. I've just been sitting back and enjoying the fun comments. You ladies here are the smartest and sexiest ever. I love it!
I totally agree with all the positive comments here. Unfortunately I've peeked into a few other sites/blogs and some have a different view of the pics and interview. Not sure why they are being so hateful but I chalk it up to them perhaps not being mature or open-minded enough to understand (shakes head).
I hope Mr Pattinson keeps his intelligent head on, maintain his wonderful sense of humor, and holds on for the success he is experiencing now and in the future. I will enjoy sitting back and witnessing it all.
Thanks again to the wonderful ladies of this blog. I will only stay on this one. It's definitely my happy place!
Personally, I found this shoot to be incredibly beautiful and tasteful.
Love Rob's apparent ennui here---just like art, we all interpret things personally---and I feel it actually highlights how unimportant that kind of glamorous life is to him. This is how I perceive Rob, right or wrong---disinterested in all that. He's not hamming it up, it's not crazy-orgy time, it's simply a reflection of Rob's own (beautiful) self. Again, just my opinion.
As for the naked women---and being a pretty strong feminist---true freedom lies in choice. They chose to do this shoot and there's nothing wrong with that.
And I don't find nudity, like this, at all offensive. It's creative and artsy. They have the appearance of live mannequins actually---and in a way, are props (but again, by their choice). I'd love to have one of these prints hanging in my house! (The one with Rob's "painting"!!!)
Truthfully, Rob is one of THE most beautiful people on the planet---even unclothed women can't compete with him.
Lastly, the interview---I would never want anyone to think they knew me solely by my comments posted here. Think about what and how you post. Is that all that you are?
Regardless that I found the interview fascinating, I very much doubt that the words in this one interview are the sum total of Rob.
I think the article is great and the pics and the video. i drove like a mad woman to get home to see the video since some people were talking as if it were a porno. Our man is classy..i think if he thought it was a shitty situation he wouldnt put himself into it. anyways..more rob please in any way, shape or form...
@Gwen, did I get you right? My feeling from these pics is that he is surrounded by naked women but he is somewhere else. That's what his eyes tell me. Fuck, my mind doesn't' work,can't find the right words right now.
NSFW!!! For those people who want to say Rob is wrong for posing with nude models. Well it's the new thing now in the modeling world. The top models in the industry such as Naomi Campbell and Kate Moss and six others just posed nude for LOVE magazine. So...
...and Tom Ford eyewear 2010 campaign with nearly naked Carolyn Murphy(super model) and English actor Nicholas Hoult who is in "A Single Man"(Tom Ford movie)
Rob isn't and never has been 'the boy next door' ... he's quirky, unique, fiercly intelligent, unfiltered but kind,gentle and above all HUMAN...Don't knock it...So let him lose a few fairweather 'fans' he doesn't need them. I find him even more fascinating after this photoshoot/interview....and we STILL don't really know anymore about him...he is a master at saying so much and yet giving away so little....just fascinating. LOve him to bits.
Well, fuck me. I will watch that video every day before going to bed now.
As for the negative publicity on Rob of the Details shoot+interview, it actually surprised me. It was certainly an interview of exposure, but I never saw that in a bad way. Not for one instant did I feel like he was being controversial, he was just being himself, exposed and humane, instead of depressed and gay. Maybe people just don't understand him- but to me he's a very relatable character, I can mirror a lot of his thoughts and views to my own. Completely agree with lizzibee on the matter.
@Lizzibee, the most apt description of Rob I have ever read, including his being a "master at saying so much and yet giving away so little...." How true, yet many of us have been guilty at one time or another of forming opinions based on how we think we know him. I admit I've done it, and will do it again with the words "I think" that Rob goes two ways: He can be incredibly thoughtful when speaking about things he cares about or he is stream-of-consciousness without any filter or forethought to what he says. In the case of the Details interview, with the added benefit of 4 beers, he was the latter. To have whatever the hell he said related back in print from the POV of a rather unprofessional self-serving journalist (IMO) makes this interview confusing, incoherent, and discomforting. For me. All day I have been trying to put my finger on what bothered me about the interview and I think that sums it up. The fact that it has caused a firestorm and Rob backlash just sucks. Rob is human, a good, well meaning one, (I think)and I can't imagine he would ever purposely say something hateful or hurtful. And, yes, sometimes he is an "idiot", as he has said about himself, but a well-meaning one. And how I love him for it, not to mention that he happens to look like an angel ;))
@Liz, you'll love being an NB! ; ) And thanks for the heads up regarding other sites/blogs---this silly "tempest in a teacup" is ridiculous. Jeez, Louise.
@RPL, how did I miss that whole name "twin" thing? Weird. When she signed off this morning, I thought she was you! Glad that wasn't the case! ; )
god!!these pics are super sexy!!!dangerous to my heart!!I don'¡t think rob is shy cause if he were he'd be uncomfortable but he's relax...he's just really mature I think..to my age...I'm 1 year younger than he also I agree with the whole nudity ...why is people making such a big deal??c'mon is not like he's zac efrom or TL please???get over it
I can't believe anyone didn't comment about the Robalicious Sneer which appears about 1:17. Holy Mother of Major Buzzing Gal Parts! He sneered. In a most Robalicious way!
Who the Flying Tent Pole cares what this man said in an article and/or interview?
I don't care if he can talk.
I *DO* care what kind of sounds he can make with that thar sneer.
The sounds of his sneer...well, that's a sound I simply *must* hear.
Just once, Dear God, and then I can die an EXTREMELY Happy Woman.
Dear Rob, Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Life's a bitch. Good riddance to bad rubbish. We've got your back. (I think the "we" know who they are) Life goes on...
@EstGarZo: I know you've left for the day but I, too, want to make you feel more welcome. You should express your point of view freely, and it is too bad you feel you can't do it here. I too cannot have 'blind faith' in any actor, even our Rob. But many of the ladies commenting here are very smart and, I think, recognize parts of him which superficial people just don't. I thing Rob is a keeper, a truly authentic soul.
And, don't get me started on sexism. Our world is so full of it, it is so systemic, that we women should be more aware and be more responsible for trying to stop it. So, you go, girl! Even the smart ones here shouldn't mind a little reminder.
@GwenCooper: Agreed, 'true freedom' lies in choice and the models, for whatever reason, chose. This is not the place to analyze sexism, and I get that Details is trying to be artsy and is male-centered, yada, yada. But.. I can't help the 'but'; it won't go away. Something just doesn't sit right about it all. Maybe that's why Rob is playing the 'anywhere but here game'.
@Lallieb: I love what you said. True, I can only speak for myself, but it is easy to form opinions of what we think of Rob, and then judge. It's part of the celebrity world. It's a weird house of mirrors and we sometimes think we know someone like Rob. However, some of the thoughtful people on this blog, who listen to and read interviews, and take Rob as a complex human being, I do think they know at least something of his authentic being. It just comes across, shines out. Which still allows for him to either reveal little or be just a tad too candid sometimes.
Sarah, you took the words right out of my mouth. Rob is a normal 23yr. old man and I feel like I've seen one more side of him with this interview. I'm still a fan and can't wait to see what his future holds. He has such a reverence for his profession that his voice drops to a whisper whenever he says it.
Wow. Just wow at what I missed today. Jessiegirl, I agree with most of what you said. We women should be more aware of the sexism, and it is so prevalent even we don't notice it sometimes. It's a fact of life, but it doesn't mean it's right. My take on this article is like a lot of people, this writer wanted to sound cool hanging with Rob. Not impressed at all, and I take any interview as how the author edited and spun the interview. If I read right though, sounds like Rob was not all that comfortable with all the naked women, but dealt. He did an amazingly sexy job obviously. that vid, whoa. Smokin hot. He is truly sex on legs. The women, yes it's their choice, but the choice is made easier by the fact that they can make more money taking clothes off than using their brains. Unfortunate. But let's not forget, we all want to see Rob naked, so hey, are we any better? LOL. Rob is using what God gave him and so are they. All in all, tasteful and hot in my opinion. But I agree, the wrong one is naked in these pics. hehehe And all opinions are welcome at Robsessed!!!
After reading almost all the comments, after some thought, I feel I have to post something. Not taking anything away from Rob, I didn't much like the shoot either. I have not read the interview and really have no interest in it. Don't know why. It does not however affect the way I view him personally .... umm, not that I know him personally. I think some are missing the point, naked women or not, tastefully done or not, I don't think Rob chose this theme. Looking awkward, looking uninterested or not, he was probably TOLD to look that way. Is it not the photographer that directs everything and the look of the photo? Can't really judge Rob on that. I could be totally wrong though. He is still wonderful, a wonderful actor and I look forward to his upcoming projects.
I just want to say to EstGaZo and others who do not speak English as their first language.. Bravo! You all should be very proud of your ability to both write and understand what is said here. Don't feel threatened by the strongly voiced opinions of the English speaking contingent here. Have your say and who cares if it differs from others. I am not American and at times have felt that the regulars have their own little club going on that you need an invitation to join.LOL!!IMHO (ducking for cover as I make this statement.) Everyone's opinion IS valid though so don't be frightened off.Hang in there. Keep making your comments and expect that not everyone will agree.. always. For Rob my last comment on The details magazine.. "We can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time but we cannot please ALL of the people All the time."
Let's celebrate the facts, he is a 23 yr old, independent, freethinking, self depricating, self taught method actor, career focused, very determined and making decisions about his longevity and ability to make the big bucks.
He is not contrary to some printed perceptions, a lost man or unsure etc etc, otherwise he would not have moved from the UK to the US to forge himself the career that he has done so. He makes his own career decisions and while some of the things he says seem a bit off, he is a Brit and his language use is very reflective of that, he says what he thinks and that should be enjoyed as refreshing and not misconstrued as no doubt it often will be.
SO if he wants to do naked shots then lets enjoy them for what they are, if you don't like the naked women then don't look, but while some people are happy to get their kit off and make money from it then this imagery will always exist. I for one did not have a prob with it but I was mostly looking at him I would admit and he looked hot. There was much less interest when Harry Potter went on stage naked in the horse thing.
So I say long live the Rob and I will continue to enjoy his creative expression in whatever form it comes and come along to this site and blog to keep updated and share similar thoughts.
I guess this topic has been exhausted but I enjoyed the video even more than the stills and am going to add my one cent.
As regards the ‘controversial’ aspects of the interview – it depends on whether one wants to take everything he says at face value, or not. One can believe Rob and, by implication, Jenny are racists, intending to cast slurs, or not. Likewise either one believes Rob is being literal and is actually allergic to vaginas and by implication hates women, or not. I don’t think he is a racist or hates women. However, that won’t change other people's beliefs, especially those who may be eager to view Rob in a negative light. As for his putting comments out there – he may forget that his sense of humour and eye-rollling don’t always translate into print – but he also is an intelligent adult. I think he knew this photoshoot and interview would ‘upset’ the way people may perceive him, and he refers to his need to do just that in the interview itself. He’s not trying to make people hate him – but he doesn’t want to be seen as simply one set 'image.' I think he can own what he said, and will deal with the consequences. If he feels the need to clarify or apologize to those who might have misconstrued, he will. If he thinks he doesn’t need to – he won’t. This has all been said so I'm only echoing other views.
I have to admit I am fine with seeing Rob walk a more of a tightrope. Most of the artists I find interesting have done the same. His intellectual curiosity and comments about being a ‘medium’ make me very hopeful he’ll remain someone to watch.
A good V-Day to all, and gonna re-recommend "Imaginarium." It's the most coherent and one of the funniest of Gilliam's films. Waits is great, Garfield and Lily Cole surprising. Plug over.
Loved the Details pics and interview from yesterday. Just catching up on the video etc now too !! Hopefully there's even more hot pics/out-takes to come !!
As for Rob, apart from the fact that he's insanely beautiful, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE his mind. He's not some stereotypical, generic Hollywood hunk who flatters everyone by telling them what they want to hear. He has a mind of his own and thank God he's more than capable of a) using it and b) happy for his thoughts to be 'out there' and makes no excuses for them.
He's a guy who would rather be honest with himself and others than pretend to be someone he's not. However, unfortunately, he has no control over those who see him as someone he is not.
If people are after a hot, young actor who tows the line then Rob is not your guy. If you want a guy who's as deep as puddle and boring as fuck to boot, then Rob is not your guy.
I can only hope that fans respect Rob for who he is and those who cannot or will not are left to mourn this ideal that he never was. Rob's under immense pressure as it is and trying to live up to this 'Edward' ideal totally sucks and perhaps this is his way of addressing that.
Rob is not perfect. But he's pretty fucking amazing if you take the time to try and see him for himself not some fucking ideal that only exists in your own head.
Just reading back through some of the comments and I'm nodding my head at AP's comments. I thought it was interesting how he was so up for the S&M bondage to test the waters of people's perceptions of him etc !! lol
The amount of times I've read/heard Rob talk about how people only love for him for being Edward just kills me. I think he needs to feel as though he can be himself without feeling under pressure to be someone he's not and make no excuses for it.
At the end of the day, people will think what they want to think. If they have pre-conceived notions about Rob or what people mean when they use the N word without comprehending the context, then there's not much Rob can do about that. He could of course pretend to be everything people require of him but fuck me, I'd hate that and would never want that for him.
People will no doubt ask about what Rob meant in the future and it's up to him as to how to reply to such questions. It's been a funny couple of days and I feel quite sad for those who no longer feel that they can adore Rob as they did, simply because they were never willing to see him clearly in the first place :(
RPG & TheMissMod, totally agree. There are posters on here and they know who they are, hell, we know who they are, whose true colours have been unveiled.
I personally think that people should leave the 'K' word at the door when you enter a Rob blog imo, it's about Rob. If you want to ship romantic notions in your own head and Rob's real personality gets in the way of that, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.
Wannabe 'feminists' dictating to other women about how they should act (modelling nude is a no-no) & think ("be disgusted with it girls") and to conform to their ideas of what feminism is, is far beyond what feminism is really about imo. Women should be able to think/act and feel what the fuck they want to and not be controlled or governed by other people's opinions.
People on here PERV at Rob ALL the fucking time as some kind of glorified sex object ( and I would class myself as one such person, lol ) so please, let's not be fucking hypocritical about it !!
@Haystackhair: Thanks. I agree. Here we are, standing in line to see shirtless Rob--remember May 27th, 2009!--and more, but comment on the nude women in the shoot. A bit hypocritical I guess.
In fact, we objectify Rob all the time. But we also, in this very humane blog, humanize him, admire him and feel for him, so I guess it's complicated.
We have to remember it is a print interview: Someone mentioned that we can't see him perhaps 'doing eye rolls' or something, during this interview. Yeah, we can't see or hear him, and in interviews it makes such a difference to perception.
He's made funny comments in TV interviews before but one could see by the mischievous look on his face he was having us on. At least those attuned to his brilliant mind could see that.
And, as so many here have said, he is his own man, not a company man or a boy with few ideas. He's an intelligent, thoughtful, and sensitive man, too complicated for morons who don't look past the obvious. He's also a bit raunchy, has an irreverant view of the world, and needs to be true to himself. He knows that. All those things make him a target for foolish, resentful people who don't care about him as we do.
I can tell you I'm completely hetero and if I had dicks at eye level for even a few minutes on a photshoot, I'd be saying things that would make others question my orientation.
Well, it hasn't been as fun as usual but it's always interesting.
@jessegirl, like your comment. Not sure he knows of the repercussions of what he has to say, YET. He will now. My mantra is not to have him ever change, and say and share whatever - that's his charm. I am truly dismayed that the damn, OK fucking, Details interview may change things. Nick will be way up his ass, not to mention Scummit. I'm really depressed thinking about this. I SO hope I'm wrong.
@lallieb: Thanks. Yeah, hard to say exactly how it'll play out. Many of you are way more savvy about these things than I am.
Did you see @Brenda's British joke on the other Details thread--the 443 post one--about being allergic to vaginas. I think it's in the last 40 comments. Check it out if you haven't. It explaings what was to me a weird comment by Rob. Now I get it and it's feels so nice.
Bottom line: Rob, we want you to be happy! Stay true to yourself!
@jessegirl, I sure did see it and posted a comment, basically thanking her for it. It made a huge difference in understanding that comment. Thanks, keep yours coming.
O.K. Robert Pattinson you have convinced me, you are definitely not an Edward Cullen or even close! Congratulations on becoming one of the victums of Hollywood's bottom feeders who make their living by dragging talented and beautiful young people into the murky and filthy depths of pornography.
Lallieb, Sorry, I didn't see your thank you to @Brenda. So many comments to keep track of is making me crazy.
On the other Details thread, which is still not dead, someone still figured he was gay, after they'd been told the British joke. She said something like, 'but he still said he hated vaginas'.. Again, tone of voice, context, make all the difference. Damn, why am I bothering to go there again?
Back to looking at my pictures.
By the way, I was watching the opening of the Olympics with some girlfriends, and, periodically piped up with: "I wish they'd flash a picture of Rob on the screen every few minutes. I haven't seen one in--uh--an hour." They aren't as Robsessed as I am and didn't get the withdrawal symptom. I couldn't even share my joy over the Bel Ami pics earlier this week with them, but that day--the only one I'd checked the blog before work, which is dangerous, man--I was going through the day with a big smile on my face. Now I know what some of you guys mean.
Back to my pictures. Bel Ami. Tyler. Just plain--er--Robert. Details. GQ. Vanity Fair/09 (!). Dossier outtakes. Go outtakes! Mark Segal--man I want those pics in HQ! Segal the hog, holding out for what? Release all those magnificent pics of Rob lying down, for god's sake.
Forget the damn Details article, women. Nothing we can do. Just go back to the pics. Okay Twilight Edward too. Let The Pretty Reign!
I do not get people who say "he's not the person I thought he was". We don't know this guy!!!
There's a million things about a person's character you need to discover to really KNOW them. And the fact that he's at least not trying to be the "perfect celebrity hunk" just proves that: he's definitely not perfect; but at least he's honest and authentic.
He's not less of what he was for me, cuz I just don't really know who he is. I would love to find out though :)
Yes, he is a great actor and a beautiful man. But that's pretty much all any of us can say...except that now we know he wont try to sell us a image of a boring perfect man, who, lets face it....doesn't really exists...
@Yelida I posted a long comment regarding, "We don't know this guy." on the other Details thread. I can't believe I'm that stupid, but I've been thread jumping and got confused. If you're interested, go there and check it out. It must be around #440 or so.
I know what you're saying here and in the main, I agree, but, well the but is on the other thread.
I have to say something just in case Rob reads this post: Rob we love you and you do no wrong in our eyes so long as you don't break the law. I had to put that in, LOL. Anyways stay healthy and be happy. I hope someday I get to see your dog, Patty, she's starting to sound like the luckiest bitch in the planet ( literally). Be yourself but grow also into a more mature and responsible individual like I know you are trying very much to do. You will get there. More power to you. Gosh, I am so excited for Water for Elephants since you mentioned it in the article. P.S. I think we are all allergic to our private parts in some way though they are of utmost importance. Well, they aren't the most well crafted parts of our bodies for one and they stink like nothing else.
Lallieb, for Robert working for Summit since the beginning of Twilight, I'm sure he knows what he's supposed to do concerning everything he may do outside the saga movies (other movies, photoshoots, interviews). I don't know whether Summit will be pleased with this Details shooting and interview but Rob did it anyway: either he knew he was allowed to do it or he didn't care (cos we know he doesn't like to be told things lol).
Although the Details Outake Video has been put down! that's too bad! anyone still has it? or do you think we may someday see those outake in stills? some of them were awesome.
I guess my first mistake was thinking that we were all adults here. Who cares if he poses with naked women or not? Those photos are beautiful and they were taken by an incredibly talented photographer. I love that he's become a "bottom feeder" to some for posing for the photographs.
Also, as a photographer myself, you should know this, although the vision may have been the photographers, Rob has every right to say "NO" to anything he isn't comfortable with and he didn't.
The idea that someone would no longer be his fan because he is doing something that a 23 y/o man has every right to do it laughable at best.
He isn't Edward Cullen people, give him a break! If I were him, I'd shave my head and long for the day when I didn't have to be him anymore. Hopefully he'll get through Breaking Dawn unscathed, but this thread makes me question it.
Love you Rob - I think the pics are beautiful. He looks so bored and shy around all the nakedness.
Jenny Lumet - didn't she re-write some of Will Fetters' screenplay "Remember Me" - and didn't I read that Rob helped her with that?? I wonder why she isn't mentioned at all in any Remember Me credits.
For all you Loonie's saying Rob is gay, Rob is not Gay! It's an old joke. Maybe Americans are not completely unfamiliar with it? "I'm allergic to vaginas, they make me swell up." He didn't tell it well (most likely because he was inebriated) but I'm surprised more people didn't get it. Particularly considering the "thank god I was hungover" crack that followed.
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143 comments:
Was there ever a more beautiful man???
Oh my...I is DEAD!!!
Geez, he is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK, I LOVE THIS MAN!!!
Okay. when does this magazine come out? Love the video. Thanks for the link. He has certainly lost his PG13 image. COnsidering Bel Ami that's a good thing.
He's a gentle man. No words. He's perfect for this role and those naked women are a perfect contest :-)
mmmm yum
youtube link :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ansk1F6B8TU
Thanks Robrator
Definitely not PG-13 anymore. Yes! Same photographer as the Vogue shoot. He gives Rob a darker, edgy sexy look.
Oh My Effing God! This is simply amazing, stunning, and fabulous! He looks BEAUTIFULLY GORGEOUS in this vid!!!
LOVE IT!!!! ; )
The running across the balcony? Gah!
OK... I am so confused! I admit Rob is a beautiful man... but I just don't get this photoshoot or the interview. I think I've been Robsessing 4 too long... time 2 get back 2 reality.
At the risk of being fussed at... Rob is not the man I thought he was... I think this will be my last comment on this blog!
RPL: Sorry to hear that. Hey you win some, you loose some....
So much for his target age group being tweens.lol
what a way to start a Saturday.
Wow He really is a shy guy! you could see the women hanging all over him, with his facial expressions being totally unaffected...nonchalant! So beautiful and totally void of ego is a rare combo! Go Rob!
I like how that video was done, it's blurry enough to not be trashy/seedy. I don't really understand how people are thinking less of him (have read a few comments like that now) - it's just a photoshoot! It's a mens mag, I think the naked ladies are agiven (yes they're skinny, but that's models for you). I still think it's tasteful, it's not like he's groping or fake-fucking them, not that that can't be tasteful of course.
oh F... i'm speechless
sorry, but i don't like neither the photos nor the video...he looks really beatiful but i think they're using the women's body as sexual objects.
I don't like the Rob's image the photos give. Well, i don't like fashion, magazines, models, Hollywood world or being a celebrity either...sometimes i think what am i doing here?
I guess i'm full of contradictions and everybody needs something to escape from rutine (and, of course, this man is gorgeous)
You will not be missed "Other RPL"..believe me...
Oh holy god, this man is IT....
Nothing will ever be better!
GAH! The Video...
Hotter than Hell!
Rob is the SEXIEST MAN ALIVE.
This is the sexiest photo shoot, ever!
Thank you Rob, Thank you Norman Jean Roy
I'm gonna start a fire come and watch them burn...
Estgarzo, women have been objectified since the beginning of time, sadly this little fact won't change with this magazine photo shoot. for all we know he might have felt strongly against this, but as he mentions in the interview that in comparison to all the shit that is out there, all the nakedness that is everywhere...this is at least artfully done. He doesn't even think his Mama will object too much of this shoot!
and don't beat your self too much over your conflicting thoughts, your probably not alone in feeling this way :)
Wow! The things we have to suffer through for the sake of art!!!! j/k! The video is great, and I think the photo shoot is well and beautifully done. Begone PG-13 Rob!!!!!
p.s.
@RPG/angie
Did you get a load of the size of Rob's spats!!!! Yowza.
The video is fabulous!
I tried to post a comment detailing all my thoughts but the site ate it!I love these pictures!Rob is very smart young strong sexy man...why shouldn't he be portrayed as such?!Some people obkectify him constantly in their heads but become hypocritical prudes when he puts his sexuality into print!
This has nothing to do with Kristen so stop mentioning her...he is his own man and none of us should feel compelled to scold him for his actions when we are not involved in their relationship...AT ALL!!!
Rob, for the last time,is not gay!He has had long term girlfriends and explicitly said he was straight in GQ when he was talking about LA!Do you relly think he could hide that with the attention he gets or would even try to??!
He is not a racist nor did he come across as one!He was simply echoing the authors word in an attempt to laugh at his apparent discomfort with the word actor...it wouldn't have made any sense if he had changed the wording!Rob has no filter we know that..he is a kind soul and innocent in some ways...he wouldn't even think to dissect his words because he doesn't mean any harm!
If you have been put off by this well then good riddance...he is beautiful inside and out anf thats all there is to it, of course some won't like everything he does but he's not a disney star or a virginal child...he's a grown man and needs to be seen as such!Sorry for the rant but my god some people take the whole political correct BS to a new level!
jc,
Yowza is right!
This has to be the most bizzare interview that I have ever read about Rob. I did not understand any of it, completely off the wall. He, himself, admitted he was hungover and had no idea what to say to the girls. I don't know if I like this Rob, too eccentric
@ DeDe
you're right, women have been objectified since the beginning but, althouht this photoshoot won't change that, i think it contribute to that. These photos add more shit to the sexist culture and values.
I agree with you these photos are artfully done, but i don't like (well, i hate) the message and the image of the women they transmit. I feel attacked as a woman, my dignity as a woman.
I'm really sorry but that's what i think...and i can swear i have A LOT of conflicting thoughts every day of my fucking life...
I still think the WRONG person is naked ;-), but I love these images nevertheless. That video- omfgah. It's a tad larger on details dot com:
http://www.details.com/video?videoID=66176423001
Rob is GORGEOUS as always but i don't like this white jacket. And Rob has a strange face expression, like somebody was forcing him to be there, and take this shoot. And this models looks like objects, you don't even see their faces only bodies. They could use greek scalptures instead of, it will be much more interesting and beautiful. And i don't like the whole idea of this shoot, my first expression was, oh my he looks like the young Hugh Hefner,... oh wait but the third bunny is missing. So the best shoots are when he is alone, or with a dressed girls.
OMFG,the hot tube pics with the white pants.....
I seriously having trouble breathing.I don't have asthma but right now it feels like it...
Yeah Estgarzo I understand you fully...however and sadly in today's world the big suits and the marketing machines will go to every length to SELL what they need to sell, and now they feel they need to sell Rob as the manly man and not the virginal teenage vampire, they want to give him male cred and in their skewed vision presenting him like this will do it. eh the world is so fucked up they could very well be right! Just don't feel bad though these women made a conscious decision to appear nude for the world to see. I doubt they were forced, maybe to them this is liberation from stereotype? maybe to them this is power? who knows...again the world is a strange place. I know Rob isn't for objectifying women or at least I feel he isn't. yea you're not alone again...be as conflicted as you need to be :)
LOL~
AnnieforPatty said.. hot tube
Color me confused but why are people saying "this Rob" as if he has changed or something. Hasn't he always being a bit eccentric and a deep thinker especially in written interviews? It's more subdued in oral interviews (or whatever it's called) but I've always found his wordings fascinating. Wasn't it even reported a while back that he turned up to one of the twilight photoshoots hangover as well
Sorry for the double post but i just wanted to add that i think Rob needs a PR person ASAP. I loved the idea of him being withought one but already the storm is gathering over that N comment
DeDe
They sell what they need to sell because there are people who buy it, and there is where we are: we can say no to that, we can stop consuming it.
Of course the models weren't forced, but they don't see this thing like me or you, maybe they just see it as "a job, fame, money..." i guess they don't think beyond that. Maybe they don't see any problem in it. And that's the problem: sexism exists because we all women allow it.
I'm so happy i'm not alone...thank you. And sorry for my english
Rob looks great in the pics asusual.... And hez very shy also...But i am unable to accept many of u taking his interview very offensively...nez being very honest and very awkwardly shy... we can see a hesitation in him when he touches the models or looks at them...Hez one of the hot and sweetest guy i have seen so far....
People have been lying in wait for Rob to mis-step
The negro reference... Ain't it.
Read it again. (and AGAIN if you have to)
Understand it fully before you fly off the fucking handle.
Dig a little deeper, people. Please.
NOTE: Jenny Lumet is Lena Horne's Grand-Daughter.
LENA HORN WAS/IS A PIONEER for African American Heritage. Do you think her GRAND DAUGHTER (of mixed race) would say anything inflammatory? Do you?
well this video was just great. for the negative comments...he is a 23yr old actor, he is NOT edward cullen. He does not have this "golden" image to uphold. He is going to do what he wants, say what he wants and do whoever he wants...and this article and photoshoot proves that. I love him for who he is. And for those who are not a fan anymore...were you ever a real fan of robert pattinson???
I read many of the comments about the photoshoot and the interview and all I have to say is that I’m completely disappointed..
Come on girls, it’s Rob; the same Rob who was yesterday before the photoshoot came out. You can’t be that easily affected by an interview. We have all seen lots of recorded or live interviews where we can see Rob says what he thinks with his own mouth. We always liked him for being the honest, simple, down-to-earth, thoughtful guy he is.
Rob is not Edward Cullen. He’s 23 and he does everything a 23 yo guys does. He smokes, he drinks, he has sex, he has fun. That’s the real Rob and we all knew that before this interview.
The interview is for a men’s magazine so the author can’t write it in sweet way like she would do if it was for a teen magazine. Her writing style doesn’t change who Rob is.
As for the negro comment, some of you stayed at the fact that he said ‘negro’. Did you even read the rest of the interview to see how and why he used the word? If you had, you would have understood what he meant and that he’s definitely not a racist.
Rob is neither 17 nor Edward Cullen. FACE IT!!!
He’s is 23 and one of the best 23 yo. How many 23 yo guys you know who are mature, thoughtful, polite, gentle, humble and so much more?!
If you are real fans of Rob and not of the pretty boy who plays Edward Cullen then you must have faith in him!!!
OMG! I have lurked here long enough and now feel moved to comment. That man is, without a doubt, the most beautiful creature on this earth. Off to lie down now...
The negative comments are just a display of ignorance.
He's gay...
He's a racist..
He uses women as sex objects...
I'm frankly disgusted with people right now...
Way to go folks....
Rob is fully aware of what he's doing, what he stands for and what he means...
Read it again, and again, and again, maybe it will sink in this time.
@rpattzgirl My thoughts exactly! It's as though this blog has been taken over by pre-pubescent girls the way people are just throwing out these pejorative comments! If this is what the Robsessed blog is turning into then God help us all - we'll just become another sappy, crappy rumour-mill blogspot and nobody wants that! Come on girls, lets retain our dignity, please! There. Rant over *takes deep breath*
Well said RPG!I pretty much said the same up above somewhere!People need reading comprehension lessons!I've never seen the Madonna/hoor complex forced onto a man so much...I mean for goodness sake!
@Ana73
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou......
I couldn't have said it any better myself. This man has FASCINATED me ever since he walked through those cafeteria doors in Twilight. Someone here once said "you can't put him in a box, can you?" and they were absolutely right on!!!! He is BEAUTIFUL in every sense of the word.
And the video......NO FUCKING WORDS!!!!!
FILTM!!!!!!!!!
Wow! I slept in this morning, got a few things done and then came to see what was up on here. So much.
First, Robert Pattinson is a beautiful man. Both photo shoots are beautiful and artistically done. I will be buying both magazines.
Second, as many have said, he is a 23-year old man. He is real, he is flawed, he is complicated, he is conflicted, he is dealing with more than any of us have/could/or would want to. He will make mistakes, he will misspeak, he is human. HE IS NOT the fictional character you fell in love with. HE IS NOT Edward Cullen. Get over it.
Third, Details is a magazine for men. There are always naked women in the magazine. It's not going to change. And 99% of models are too skinny. Have you not seen any models before? Get over it.
Fourth, for those who say they are done with him, good riddance. He will be just fine with out you. For those who said that they were shocked by his comments, photos, and the KStew thing, good God people, really? Get over it.
Again, he is not a vampire named Edward Cullen. He is a human named Robert Thomas Pattinson.
And what a beautiful human, indeed!
as far as I am concerned, i was refering to the photoshoot in general, i'm not judging Rob (of course!).
I know it's a magazine for men and there are always naked skinny women, i'm just saying that i don't like that because it humiliates me as a woman, and that's why i'm against that. And it's not going to change because we don't do nothing to change it. We allow it.
We just have different perspectives. No problem.
well said vafla89
@CL ITA
Those who can't love him because of these pics live in a fantasy world. And I'm so glad that he is not Edfuckingward. Who wants Edward when there is ROB!!! HOT blooded man in flesh.
These pics messed my mind so bad, I lost my coherences and it's just pics. What will he do with me in Bel Ami???
IKR Annie!Fuck them more for us eh?Bel ami will kill me...FACT!!!
Please don't misunderstand, I'm not knocking people who don't like the photos, to each his own.
I'm only saying the people who are misjudging the photos or the interview....that's who I have a problem with....
Art, nudity & beauty are not for all apparently...
CL, annie, RPG...WELL SAID. I agree completely.
and buhbye, "other RPL"... ;))
I just have to comment.
I'm 23 year.
For me to read the interviw is amazing. Why ? becuse the man is my age and hes not some ego trip guy things hes the man cuz he has nakide ladise around and girls/woman screaming and faint and going cray.
As for his word vomit. Its great. Hes beign himslef not somboy els.
As for the pics. Its not vulgur.. not stupid. It would have been a bit much if he was all over them and such.
Its art.
Rant over.
Ps.. sorry about the spelling..I'll mad cuz some of the comments.
@RPL LOL,I heart you,the only real RPL ;)
Does "The Dominate/Submissive" come to mind???
I can use a little "AfterCare" Rob
*winks*
@miss_dj_sana your anger is understandable, some people are just happy to stir things up, some stick to their guns and defend whoever or whatever to the hilt, and as a fellow Brit and Rob fan since the old days of Harry P, I intend to defend Rob as such. He comes across as just being genuine and if that offends people then bully for them! In my opnion this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and is like little reception (kindergarden) aged children having an argument about cheese - completely inconsequential. J'ai fini.
Hi REAL RPL!!!
annie, RPG, I <3 you guys! =)
@TheMissMod . Yeah some people sure love that. But one has to under.. dont they read the whole interviw before opening therie mouths.
One of the best things about Rob is his honesty.
Just silly and all around hurtful.
And for all the girls that dont like him anymore.. Its not playboy for godsake.
I realy like the intervjue. Its funny and honest. It seems like many fans think that Robert is Edward C, they realy need to wake up, becouse that just to damn stupid. Hes an actor. And about the gay comments. If Rob was gay, well i realy don't care. I love him for his goffy sexy way to be. And I hope i get to see Rober in many more movies.
Well said ladies...
Thank god the intellegent people are up now!
RPL, heart you too..
Not only art, nudity & beauty but also everything is subjective: everyone has a different perspective...
sometimes i feel like i can't say nothing here that doesn't fit in the "obsession", i feel like i can't say a different opinion from most of people, like i can't say constructive comments...i don't have "blind faith" to anybody, so i sometimes say what i don't like or what i disagree with.
i'm just saying that i would like writing in this blog but i wouldn't like having to silence my critic perspective (as long as i don't hurt anybody, of course) My question is ¿can i do that?
Sorry because i'm aware of my poor english...
PD: please don't misinterpret my words, i'm NOT attacking anybody, i'm not adressing to nobody directly or specifically. Moreover, if you read and you think that i sound rough, i don't, i don't mean it, it's just a "language problem" (sometimes i can't find the correct words to express my ideas)
It seems to me Rob created a character for this photoshoot:a bored man, without any thrill, empty stare, he feels nothing looking directly to those models but... when he looks direct to the camera, I feel that Rob is looking directly to me (us, public), he needs me (us, public). It is my (our) attention he wants. These photos when he is looking to the camera are my favorite ones.
I don`t intend to read the "interview" because I don`t waste my time. I think it isn`t "Rob" who is talking it`s one more character he creates for these "interviews". I love Rob , just the way he is: a good actor, a funny guy, smart, clever, ambitious and extremely sexy, that`s why I like to listen to him, not reading these "interviews".
Oh! I hope Details has paid him very well. He deserves that, he is very cool. I love Rob all the time!!!
@rpg, rpl, Suz, CL and anyone else I missed who echoed those comments - ITA. Rob is Rob. I love his characters, but he is his own man. I can say that I am more intrigued and enamored with who he is than I was before.
And btw, the video?
I. am. dead.
Maybe if I keep watching it and gazing upon the pictures my fever will break!!
EstGarZo,
I totally agree that it's a personal taste...and I respect your views...
What I have a problem with are the others who are saying they will no longer be his fans now, or that he's gay, or that he's racist...
These photos are not for everyone, so don't aplogize, or feel you're english is not good, because you are fine....
EstGarZo-I second what RPG has said...everyone's entitled to their own views, and of course not everyone is going to like these photos. It's about not taking these pics or even the interview at face value, and letting Rob have more than just one side to his personality.
And don't worry about your English, it's my native language and sometimes it's difficult for me to say what I mean! =)
rpattzgirl
thank you...
on the one hand, i'm very worried about not hurting anybody, i don't want to say something that may upset somebody. But, on the other hand, i would like to express my ponit of view freely. Like i said, i'm not a girl who has "blind faith" in Rob or in somebody else (even myself) so, when i see something that i don't agree with, i'd like to say it. But i feel like i can't do it here. I think over and over it before i write things which i know they won't be accepted, and most of the times i even write it.
Maybe i'm not a "fan", i'm not "robsessed"...in moments like this is when i think if i should leave, because i feel like i'm a pain in the neck to you all...that's why i'm always apologizing
Wow, some people really need to get a clue on how to read and interpret the meaning of things. Do people really not understand what Rob is saying? Is it that difficult? Some things are symbolic, some are literal, and sometimes one has to look deeper than what one sees at a superficial first glance.
As for the photos, they're hot, and pretty well done, but I can't disagree that they may be somewhat objectifying women. Now, was that Rob's idea and did he understand it? Probably not. He actually implied that he was a bit uncomfortable with it. I really think Details was trying to be tasteful--but they probably don't even understand. But that's showbusiness for you--modern culture expects stuff like this!
@RPLover - LMAO! We only need you, the real Rob Pattinson Lover. I heart you.
RPlover
You're right: we can't reduce all of Rob's personality to these photos, it would be unfair.
I'm always worried about my english because misundesrtandings happen very easily...you have to consider that i take more than 50% of the words i write from wordreference.com...and i may choose the uncorrect word and mess up...;)
EstGarZo,
No, don't leave, and you're not hurting anyone, you're just expressing your opinion and you're not saying anything negative about Rob, that's the difference.
@EstGarZo - Everyone has their own view, their own opinion. I think you make very valid points. Please stay and hang out.
And your English is just fine.
@RPG - You said it much better, but my brain hurts from all The Pretty and all the petty negative comments on other blogs.
@CL, don't read those :(
@Annie - Am stopping now. F*ck those ignorant people.
Evil blogs full of negativity will rot your brain.
This is your Public Service Amnouncement for the day!
Tad
Um... I was trying to type "Tada" but my fingers messed it up. **embarrassed face**
I've never commented before - just lurked. Thanks for posting the video.
The bathtub pix are the sexiest pix I've ever seen. Something really sensual but also so intimate. Him sitting on the toilet with the towel in his hand? Almost lovingly.
I have to say, I wasn't thrilled with the interview. Nothing Rob said was wrong, but I felt the interviewer was making herself a lot of the story itself. I went with Rob to a restaurant, I told Rob about a sex shop, I was asked by Allen Coulter to look over the script. She was inserting herself into the narrative of the story and that's pretty much a no-no in journalism.
Anyway, I think these photos are beyond beautiful. Yeah, the models are used as props, but then that's what models are. And this is a men's magazine. It wasn't going to be like the Harpers' shoot with Rob on his knees in front of a woman. Different audience = different takes.
Thanks for letting me join your party.
*just me*
as it looks like no one gets over i want to express my opinion as always in the worst English but i don't mind ;).i've posted it on Thinking of Rob,but the whole article disappeared including my comment, so i will say the same things
1. the whole womankind wanted more, we got, now some of are complaining, they are like too much more. come on, you wanted it, girls were hanging themselves over his neck, wanted him to unbutton... he had them naked as they wanted...
i"m going to post another comment right now
@Martini - That should be typed up and laminated. So true.
goodbye ladies I arranged to meet some friends for dinner adiós!
thanks for helping me i needed to let off steam
OMFG! esp the ones in the bathroom lol! loved this video! better than the pics themselves.
I saw all the outtakes. They were even more artsy. This photographer is brilliant.It was like looking into Rob's mind or something. The images were blinding, colorful, twisted, sexy, dark,and lighthearted. There was also the double and triple images that showed him going through a number of emotions. Kind of like having a split personalty. This was sort of deep and the vid was amazing. HOT HOT HOT...ROB PORN. Hmmm...yummy.
I am tired of all the hateful comments - love Rob or hate him, you can't have it both ways. Trust me, Rob won't do anything he doesn't want to, we have seen that in the past AND he is neither gay or racist or disrespects women! If you want to abandon him - bye bye, there are enough of us who will stand by him in whatever he wants to do
@EstGarZo, I think you communicate very well. Your English is fine!
And you're correct, please continue to speak your mind, your opinion is never wrong---it is YOUR opinion and should always be welcome.
I liked the interview cos it showed how Rob is intellectual and intelligent and nosey, even though I haven't understood everything cos English is not my language. But one thing for sure, this interview didn't make me think that Rob is gay or a racist or def hates vagina lol. Too bad some ppl got it the wrong way. Rob is such a unique guy for his age.
I see all this mess (I can’t find another word so help me!) that the photoshoot caused and only one thing comes to mind right now: if a photoshoot caused all this, then what will happen when Bel Ami will be released?! God, I don’t even want to think about this…
Maybe some people should try to think harder, comprehend some things, accept different points of view and become more open-minded till then…
I don’t mean to offend anyone and I want to make clear that I’m talking about people who don’t want to understand what this is about (for example this interview and the photoshoot) or they deny to accept something that is different from what they believe. (I don’t know if what I say makes sense, I’m sorry but English is not my native language)
I've been speechless since last night when all these stunning photos arrived. I've just been sitting back and enjoying the fun comments. You ladies here are the smartest and sexiest ever. I love it!
I totally agree with all the positive comments here. Unfortunately I've peeked into a few other sites/blogs and some have a different view of the pics and interview. Not sure why they are being so hateful but I chalk it up to them perhaps not being mature or open-minded enough to understand
(shakes head).
I hope Mr Pattinson keeps his intelligent head on, maintain his wonderful sense of humor, and holds on for the success he is experiencing now and in the future. I will enjoy sitting back and witnessing it all.
Thanks again to the wonderful ladies of this blog. I will only stay on this one. It's definitely my happy place!
ehem...
I forgot to add: FILTM! and how does one join the NB's?
:)
Wow, not liking the negative stuff at all!
Personally, I found this shoot to be incredibly beautiful and tasteful.
Love Rob's apparent ennui here---just like art, we all interpret things personally---and I feel it actually highlights how unimportant that kind of glamorous life is to him. This is how I perceive Rob, right or wrong---disinterested in all that. He's not hamming it up, it's not crazy-orgy time, it's simply a reflection of Rob's own (beautiful) self. Again, just my opinion.
As for the naked women---and being a pretty strong feminist---true freedom lies in choice. They chose to do this shoot and there's nothing wrong with that.
And I don't find nudity, like this, at all offensive. It's creative and artsy. They have the appearance of live mannequins actually---and in a way, are props (but again, by their choice). I'd love to have one of these prints hanging in my house! (The one with Rob's "painting"!!!)
Truthfully, Rob is one of THE most beautiful people on the planet---even unclothed women can't compete with him.
Lastly, the interview---I would never want anyone to think they knew me solely by my comments posted here. Think about what and how you post. Is that all that you are?
Regardless that I found the interview fascinating, I very much doubt that the words in this one interview are the sum total of Rob.
With love and peace, people.
@Liz, You just did ;) Only thing you have to do is to say
FILTM!!! (you have to mean it!!)
I think the article is great and the pics and the video. i drove like a mad woman to get home to see the video since some people were talking as if it were a porno. Our man is classy..i think if he thought it was a shitty situation he wouldnt put himself into it. anyways..more rob please in any way, shape or form...
@Gwen, did I get you right? My feeling from these pics is that he is surrounded by naked women but he is somewhere else. That's what his eyes tell me. Fuck, my mind doesn't' work,can't find the right words right now.
@Annie, yes, exactly! He's playing the "anywhere but here" game in my mind! LOL! ; )
Re the video, funny---song performed by Wolf People. (Chuckle.)
NSFW!!! For those people who want to say Rob is wrong for posing with nude models. Well it's the new thing now in the modeling world. The top models in the industry such as Naomi Campbell and Kate Moss and six others just posed nude for LOVE magazine. So...
...and Tom Ford eyewear 2010 campaign with nearly naked Carolyn Murphy(super model) and English actor Nicholas Hoult who is in "A Single Man"(Tom Ford movie)
http://fashiongonerogue.com/2010/02/tom-ford-eyewear-spring-2010-campaign-carolyn-murphy-by-tom-ford/
Rob isn't and never has been 'the boy next door' ... he's quirky, unique, fiercly intelligent, unfiltered but kind,gentle and above all HUMAN...Don't knock it...So let him lose a few fairweather 'fans' he doesn't need them. I find him even more fascinating after this photoshoot/interview....and we STILL don't really know anymore about him...he is a master at saying so much and yet giving away so little....just fascinating. LOve him to bits.
@annieforpatty: Yes! I do mean it!!
Thank you :)
And @ Gwen: you said everything I couldn't put into words!
wait. what? I started choking what I saw boobies. Damn this is hot! This is ain't kiddie shiet now. WOO HOO!!!
Well, fuck me. I will watch that video every day before going to bed now.
As for the negative publicity on Rob of the Details shoot+interview, it actually surprised me. It was certainly an interview of exposure, but I never saw that in a bad way. Not for one instant did I feel like he was being controversial, he was just being himself, exposed and humane, instead of depressed and gay. Maybe people just don't understand him- but to me he's a very relatable character, I can mirror a lot of his thoughts and views to my own. Completely agree with lizzibee on the matter.
@Lizzibee, the most apt description of Rob I have ever read, including his being a "master at saying so much and yet giving away so little...." How true, yet many of us have been guilty at one time or another of forming opinions based on how we think we know him. I admit I've done it, and will do it again with the words "I think" that Rob goes two ways: He can be incredibly thoughtful when speaking about things he cares about or he is stream-of-consciousness without any filter or forethought to what he says. In the case of the Details interview, with the added benefit of 4 beers, he was the latter. To have whatever the hell he said related back in print from the POV of a rather unprofessional self-serving journalist (IMO) makes this interview confusing, incoherent, and discomforting. For me. All day I have been trying to put my finger on what bothered me about the interview and I think that sums it up. The fact that it has caused a firestorm and Rob backlash just sucks. Rob is human, a good, well meaning one, (I think)and I can't imagine he would ever purposely say something hateful or hurtful. And, yes, sometimes he is an "idiot", as he has said about himself, but a well-meaning one. And how I love him for it, not to mention that he happens to look like an angel ;))
CL, sorry this is so much later, had to go for a while (and I do again, I was just checking in) but I heart you too! :))
Liz, welcome to the NB's, best group of smart sexy ladies I know! <3
rplover - i saw that your evil twin isn't coming back anymore, YAY!!! I hope you know what i am talking about :))
@Liz, you'll love being an NB! ; )
And thanks for the heads up regarding other sites/blogs---this silly "tempest in a teacup" is ridiculous. Jeez, Louise.
@RPL, how did I miss that whole name "twin" thing? Weird. When she signed off this morning, I thought she was you! Glad that wasn't the case! ; )
god!!these pics are super sexy!!!dangerous to my heart!!I don'¡t think rob is shy cause if he were he'd be uncomfortable but he's relax...he's just really mature I think..to my age...I'm 1 year younger than he
also I agree with the whole nudity ...why is people making such a big deal??c'mon is not like he's zac efrom or TL please???get over it
I think I just died a little
*swoon*
I can't believe anyone didn't comment about the Robalicious Sneer which appears about 1:17. Holy Mother of Major Buzzing Gal Parts! He sneered. In a most Robalicious way!
Who the Flying Tent Pole cares what this man said in an article and/or interview?
I don't care if he can talk.
I *DO* care what kind of sounds he can make with that thar sneer.
The sounds of his sneer...well, that's a sound I simply *must* hear.
Just once, Dear God, and then I can die an EXTREMELY Happy Woman.
:::swoon at the sneer:::
☺
Dear Rob,
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Life's a bitch.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
We've got your back. (I think the "we" know who they are)
Life goes on...
FILTM
what's with all this talk of him being gay or coming out in details magazine?
Al'right, I'll say it:
DON'T YOU THINK HE GOT HORNY SHOOTING THESE?
Oh, c'mon! Did you see the vid??
I'll bet.
I did... :)
Hey, LT! I got your email. Girl, you are dirtier than I am... WOW! Loved it!!
But I liked the vid, and some of the pix. The 'bored look' is (maybe) because of the 'character' he was playing there... dunno...
:)))
Jeezzzzzz - that is so freakin' sexy - he's pretty ballsy to do that I think!!
Wonder what his mum says about THOSE pictures???
@ femroc,
his mom should be proud! I would :)
Title on the cover - the remasculation of the AMERICAN man?? Hmmmmmm - wierd that Rob's on the cover.
Rob is GAY????? REALLY???
WOW,
Many women will give up him and
there will be more Rob to me. Yummy!!! ( laughter )
Oh! Santa Claus exists too!! (laughter)
Gwen, if you check back here, no, that's not me. no, no, no! LOL
and I'm not going anywhere. =)
FILTM!
@EstGarZo: I know you've left for the day but I, too, want to make you feel more welcome. You should express your point of view freely, and it is too bad you feel you can't do it here.
I too cannot have 'blind faith' in any actor, even our Rob. But many of the ladies commenting here are very smart and, I think, recognize parts of him which superficial people just don't. I thing Rob is a keeper, a truly authentic soul.
And, don't get me started on sexism. Our world is so full of it, it is so systemic, that we women should be more aware and be more responsible for trying to stop it. So, you go, girl! Even the smart ones here shouldn't mind a little reminder.
@GwenCooper: Agreed, 'true freedom' lies in choice and the models, for whatever reason, chose. This is not the place to analyze sexism, and I get that Details is trying to be artsy and is male-centered, yada, yada. But.. I can't help the 'but'; it won't go away. Something just doesn't sit right about it all. Maybe that's why Rob is playing the 'anywhere but here game'.
@Lallieb: I love what you said. True, I can only speak for myself, but it is easy to form opinions of what we think of Rob, and then judge. It's part of the celebrity world. It's a weird house of mirrors and we sometimes think we know someone like Rob.
However, some of the thoughtful people on this blog, who listen to and read interviews, and take Rob as a complex human being, I do think they know at least something of his authentic being. It just comes across, shines out.
Which still allows for him to either reveal little or be just a tad too candid sometimes.
Sarah, you took the words right out of my mouth. Rob is a normal 23yr. old man and I feel like I've seen one more side of him with this interview. I'm still a fan and can't wait to see what his future holds. He has such a reverence for his profession that his voice drops to a whisper whenever he says it.
Wow. Just wow at what I missed today. Jessiegirl, I agree with most of what you said. We women should be more aware of the sexism, and it is so prevalent even we don't notice it sometimes. It's a fact of life, but it doesn't mean it's right. My take on this article is like a lot of people, this writer wanted to sound cool hanging with Rob. Not impressed at all, and I take any interview as how the author edited and spun the interview. If I read right though, sounds like Rob was not all that comfortable with all the naked women, but dealt. He did an amazingly sexy job obviously. that vid, whoa. Smokin hot. He is truly sex on legs.
The women, yes it's their choice, but the choice is made easier by the fact that they can make more money taking clothes off than using their brains. Unfortunate.
But let's not forget, we all want to see Rob naked, so hey, are we any better? LOL. Rob is using what God gave him and so are they.
All in all, tasteful and hot in my opinion. But I agree, the wrong one is naked in these pics. hehehe
And all opinions are welcome at Robsessed!!!
OMG!!!!
After reading almost all the comments, after some thought, I feel I have to post something.
Not taking anything away from Rob, I didn't much like the shoot either. I have not read the interview and really have no interest in it. Don't know why. It does not however affect the way I view him personally .... umm, not that I know him personally. I think some are missing the point, naked women or not, tastefully done or not, I don't think Rob chose this theme. Looking awkward, looking uninterested or not, he was probably TOLD to look that way. Is it not the photographer that directs everything and the look of the photo? Can't really judge Rob on that. I could be totally wrong though.
He is still wonderful, a wonderful actor and I look forward to his upcoming projects.
I just want to say to EstGaZo and others who do not speak English as their first language.. Bravo!
You all should be very proud of your ability to both write and understand what is said here.
Don't feel threatened by the strongly voiced opinions of the English speaking contingent here.
Have your say and who cares if it differs from others. I am not American and at times have felt that the regulars have their own little club going on that you need an invitation to join.LOL!!IMHO (ducking for cover as I make this statement.)
Everyone's opinion IS valid though so don't be frightened off.Hang in there. Keep making your comments and expect that not everyone will agree.. always.
For Rob my last comment on The details magazine..
"We can please some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time but we cannot please ALL of the people All the time."
RPL... b bye..
Hi all
wasn't going to comment but then thot why not.
Let's celebrate the facts, he is a 23 yr old, independent, freethinking, self depricating, self taught method actor, career focused, very determined and making decisions about his longevity and ability to make the big bucks.
He is not contrary to some printed perceptions, a lost man or unsure etc etc, otherwise he would not have moved from the UK to the US to forge himself the career that he has done so. He makes his own career decisions and while some of the things he says seem a bit off, he is a Brit and his language use is very reflective of that, he says what he thinks and that should be enjoyed as refreshing and not misconstrued as no doubt it often will be.
SO if he wants to do naked shots then lets enjoy them for what they are, if you don't like the naked women then don't look, but while some people are happy to get their kit off and make money from it then this imagery will always exist. I for one did not have a prob with it but I was mostly looking at him I would admit and he looked hot. There was much less interest when Harry Potter went on stage naked in the horse thing.
So I say long live the Rob and I will continue to enjoy his creative expression in whatever form it comes and come along to this site and blog to keep updated and share similar thoughts.
Happy valentines day all.
I guess this topic has been exhausted but I enjoyed the video even more than the stills and am going to add my one cent.
As regards the ‘controversial’ aspects of the interview – it depends on whether one wants to take everything he says at face value, or not. One can believe Rob and, by implication, Jenny are racists, intending to cast slurs, or not. Likewise either one believes Rob is being literal and is actually allergic to vaginas and by implication hates women, or not. I don’t think he is a racist or hates women. However, that won’t change other people's beliefs, especially those who may be eager to view Rob in a negative light. As for his putting comments out there – he may forget that his sense of humour and eye-rollling don’t always translate into print – but he also is an intelligent adult. I think he knew this photoshoot and interview would ‘upset’ the way people may perceive him, and he refers to his need to do just that in the interview itself. He’s not trying to make people hate him – but he doesn’t want to be seen as simply one set 'image.' I think he can own what he said, and will deal with the consequences. If he feels the need to clarify or apologize to those who might have misconstrued, he will. If he thinks he doesn’t need to – he won’t. This has all been said so I'm only echoing other views.
I have to admit I am fine with seeing Rob walk a more of a tightrope. Most of the artists I find interesting have done the same. His intellectual curiosity and comments about being a ‘medium’ make me very hopeful he’ll remain someone to watch.
A good V-Day to all, and gonna re-recommend "Imaginarium." It's the most coherent and one of the funniest of Gilliam's films. Waits is great, Garfield and Lily Cole surprising. Plug over.
Loved the Details pics and interview from yesterday. Just catching up on the video etc now too !! Hopefully there's even more hot pics/out-takes to come !!
As for Rob, apart from the fact that he's insanely beautiful, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE his mind. He's not some stereotypical, generic Hollywood hunk who flatters everyone by telling them what they want to hear. He has a mind of his own and thank God he's more than capable of a) using it and b) happy for his thoughts to be 'out there' and makes no excuses for them.
He's a guy who would rather be honest with himself and others than pretend to be someone he's not. However, unfortunately, he has no control over those who see him as someone he is not.
If people are after a hot, young actor who tows the line then Rob is not your guy.
If you want a guy who's as deep as puddle and boring as fuck to boot, then Rob is not your guy.
I can only hope that fans respect Rob for who he is and those who cannot or will not are left to mourn this ideal that he never was. Rob's under immense pressure as it is and trying to live up to this 'Edward' ideal totally sucks and perhaps this is his way of addressing that.
Rob is not perfect. But he's pretty fucking amazing if you take the time to try and see him for himself not some fucking ideal that only exists in your own head.
Just reading back through some of the comments and I'm nodding my head at AP's comments. I thought it was interesting how he was so up for the S&M bondage to test the waters of people's perceptions of him etc !! lol
The amount of times I've read/heard Rob talk about how people only love for him for being Edward just kills me. I think he needs to feel as though he can be himself without feeling under pressure to be someone he's not and make no excuses for it.
At the end of the day, people will think what they want to think. If they have pre-conceived notions about Rob or what people mean when they use the N word without comprehending the context, then there's not much Rob can do about that. He could of course pretend to be everything people require of him but fuck me, I'd hate that and would never want that for him.
People will no doubt ask about what Rob meant in the future and it's up to him as to how to reply to such questions. It's been a funny couple of days and I feel quite sad for those who no longer feel that they can adore Rob as they did, simply because they were never willing to see him clearly in the first place :(
RPG & TheMissMod, totally agree. There are posters on here and they know who they are, hell, we know who they are, whose true colours have been unveiled.
I personally think that people should leave the 'K' word at the door when you enter a Rob blog imo, it's about Rob. If you want to ship romantic notions in your own head and Rob's real personality gets in the way of that, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.
Wannabe 'feminists' dictating to other women about how they should act (modelling nude is a no-no) & think ("be disgusted with it girls") and to conform to their ideas of what feminism is, is far beyond what feminism is really about imo. Women should be able to think/act and feel what the fuck they want to and not be controlled or governed by other people's opinions.
People on here PERV at Rob ALL the fucking time as some kind of glorified sex object ( and I would class myself as one such person, lol ) so please, let's not be fucking hypocritical about it !!
what happened in this blog?
These Details posts are a riot.
@Haystackhair:
Thanks. I agree. Here we are, standing in line to see shirtless Rob--remember May 27th, 2009!--and more, but comment on the nude women in the shoot. A bit hypocritical I guess.
In fact, we objectify Rob all the time. But we also, in this very humane blog, humanize him, admire him and feel for him, so I guess it's complicated.
We have to remember it is a print interview: Someone mentioned that we can't see him perhaps 'doing eye rolls' or something, during this interview.
Yeah, we can't see or hear him, and in interviews it makes such a difference to perception.
He's made funny comments in TV interviews before but one could see by the mischievous look on his face he was having us on. At least those attuned to his brilliant mind could see that.
And, as so many here have said, he is his own man, not a company man or a boy with few ideas. He's an intelligent, thoughtful, and sensitive man, too complicated for morons who don't look past the obvious. He's also a bit raunchy, has an irreverant view of the world, and needs to be true to himself. He knows that.
All those things make him a target for foolish, resentful people who don't care about him as we do.
I can tell you I'm completely hetero and if I had dicks at eye level for even a few minutes on a photshoot, I'd be saying things that would make others question my orientation.
Well, it hasn't been as fun as usual but it's always interesting.
Now, back to sorting my pics.
@jessegirl, like your comment. Not sure he knows of the repercussions of what he has to say, YET. He will now. My mantra is not to have him ever change, and say and share whatever - that's his charm. I am truly dismayed that the damn, OK fucking, Details interview may change things. Nick will be way up his ass, not to mention Scummit. I'm really depressed thinking about this. I SO hope I'm wrong.
@lallieb: Thanks. Yeah, hard to say exactly how it'll play out. Many of you are way more savvy about these things than I am.
Did you see @Brenda's British joke on the other Details thread--the 443 post one--about being allergic to vaginas. I think it's in the last 40 comments.
Check it out if you haven't. It explaings what was to me a weird comment by Rob. Now I get it and it's feels so nice.
Bottom line: Rob, we want you to be happy! Stay true to yourself!
Gaahh. I meant 'explains', not 'explaings'. And 'it' feels so nice...
My hands are cold, hence the bad typing. Sorry.
@jessegirl, I sure did see it and posted a comment, basically thanking her for it. It made a huge difference in understanding that comment. Thanks, keep yours coming.
O.K. Robert Pattinson you have convinced me, you are definitely not an Edward Cullen or even close! Congratulations on becoming one of the victums of Hollywood's bottom feeders who make their living by dragging talented and beautiful young people into the murky and filthy depths of pornography.
Lallieb,
Sorry, I didn't see your thank you to @Brenda. So many comments to keep track of is making me crazy.
On the other Details thread, which is still not dead, someone still figured he was gay, after they'd been told the British joke. She said something like, 'but he still said he hated vaginas'..
Again, tone of voice, context, make all the difference.
Damn, why am I bothering to go there again?
Back to looking at my pictures.
By the way, I was watching the opening of the Olympics with some girlfriends, and, periodically piped up with: "I wish they'd flash a picture of Rob on the screen every few minutes. I haven't seen one in--uh--an hour." They aren't as Robsessed as I am and didn't get the withdrawal symptom.
I couldn't even share my joy over the Bel Ami pics earlier this week with them, but that day--the only one I'd checked the blog before work, which is dangerous, man--I was going through the day with a big smile on my face. Now I know what some of you guys mean.
Back to my pictures. Bel Ami. Tyler. Just plain--er--Robert. Details. GQ. Vanity Fair/09 (!). Dossier outtakes. Go outtakes!
Mark Segal--man I want those pics in HQ! Segal the hog, holding out for what? Release all those magnificent pics of Rob lying down, for god's sake.
Forget the damn Details article, women. Nothing we can do.
Just go back to the pics.
Okay Twilight Edward too.
Let The Pretty Reign!
@Peggy: Robert Pattinson doesn't post or comment here. You need to contact his agency/management if you would like to write to him.
I do not get people who say "he's not the person I thought he was". We don't know this guy!!!
There's a million things about a person's character you need to discover to really KNOW them. And the fact that he's at least not trying to be the "perfect celebrity hunk" just proves that: he's definitely not perfect; but at least he's honest and authentic.
He's not less of what he was for me, cuz I just don't really know who he is. I would love to find out though :)
Yes, he is a great actor and a beautiful man. But that's pretty much all any of us can say...except that now we know he wont try to sell us a image of a boring perfect man, who, lets face it....doesn't really exists...
@Yelida
I posted a long comment regarding, "We don't know this guy." on the other Details thread.
I can't believe I'm that stupid, but I've been thread jumping and got confused.
If you're interested, go there and check it out. It must be around #440 or so.
I know what you're saying here and in the main, I agree, but, well the but is on the other thread.
I have to say something just in case Rob reads this post: Rob we love you and you do no wrong in our eyes so long as you don't break the law. I had to put that in, LOL. Anyways stay healthy and be happy. I hope someday I get to see your dog, Patty, she's starting to sound like the luckiest bitch in the planet ( literally). Be yourself but grow also into a more mature and responsible individual like I know you are trying very much to do. You will get there. More power to you. Gosh, I am so excited for Water for Elephants since you mentioned it in the article. P.S. I think we are all allergic to our private parts in some way though they are of utmost importance. Well, they aren't the most well crafted parts of our bodies for one and they stink like nothing else.
Lallieb, for Robert working for Summit since the beginning of Twilight, I'm sure he knows what he's supposed to do concerning everything he may do outside the saga movies (other movies, photoshoots, interviews). I don't know whether Summit will be pleased with this Details shooting and interview but Rob did it anyway: either he knew he was allowed to do it or he didn't care (cos we know he doesn't like to be told things lol).
Although the Details Outake Video has been put down! that's too bad! anyone still has it? or do you think we may someday see those outake in stills? some of them were awesome.
And yeah, Robert is amazing!
FILTM lol!!!!
I meant "Also" not "Although".
I guess my first mistake was thinking that we were all adults here. Who cares if he poses with naked women or not? Those photos are beautiful and they were taken by an incredibly talented photographer. I love that he's become a "bottom feeder" to some for posing for the photographs.
Also, as a photographer myself, you should know this, although the vision may have been the photographers, Rob has every right to say "NO" to anything he isn't comfortable with and he didn't.
The idea that someone would no longer be his fan because he is doing something that a 23 y/o man has every right to do it laughable at best.
He isn't Edward Cullen people, give him a break! If I were him, I'd shave my head and long for the day when I didn't have to be him anymore. Hopefully he'll get through Breaking Dawn unscathed, but this thread makes me question it.
Love you Rob - I think the pics are beautiful. He looks so bored and shy around all the nakedness.
Jenny Lumet - didn't she re-write some of Will Fetters' screenplay "Remember Me" - and didn't I read that Rob helped her with that?? I wonder why she isn't mentioned at all in any Remember Me credits.
For all you Loonie's saying Rob is gay, Rob is not Gay! It's an old joke. Maybe Americans are not completely unfamiliar with it? "I'm allergic to vaginas, they make me swell up." He didn't tell it well (most likely because he was inebriated) but I'm surprised more people didn't get it. Particularly considering the "thank god I was hungover" crack that followed.
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