Here’s the synopsis:
Bel Ami is the story of Georges Duroy (Robert Pattinson), who travels through 1890s Paris, from cockroach ridden garrets to opulent salons, using his wits and powers of seduction to rise from poverty to wealth, from a prostitute’s embrace to passionate trysts with wealthy beauties, in a world where politics and media jostle for influence, where sex is power and celebrity an obsession.
Based on the synopsis, I think Pattinson’s female fanbase is going to be very happy watching this movie. (Kate: LOL, You think ? )
The other bit of news we were informed of is exactly who each actor is playing in the film and some more casting info.
Here’s what we were sent:
Robert Pattinson plays Georges Duroy in this erotically charged story of ambition, power and seduction. Uma Thurman (Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill) is Madeleine, Kristin Scott Thomas (Nowhere Boy, I’ve Loved You So Long) is Virginie, Christina Ricci (Monster, The Ice Storm) is Clotilde, Holly Grainger (Scouting Book for Boys) is Suzanne, Philip Glenister (Life on Mars, Calendar Girls) is Charles, and Colm Meaney (The Damned United, The Snapper) plays Duroy’s adversary, Rousset.(Kate: Squeeeeee. Colm Is Irish so I'm excited)
The screenplay is written by Rachel Bennette from the novel by Guy de Maupassant, and the film is directed by the influential and innovative Cheek By Jowl directors Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod.
BEL AMI is produced by Uberto Pasolini (The Full Monty, Machan) with Simon Fuller as executive producer. The director of photography is Hagen Bogdanski (The Young Victoria, The Lives of Others); Attila F. Kovacs (Sunshine, Meeting Venus) is production designer; the costumes are designed by Odile Dicks-Mireaux (An Education, The Constant Gardener); the hair and make-up designer is Jenny Shircore (The Young Victoria, Elizabeth: The Golden Age) and the editor is Masahiro Hirakubo (The Duchess, Trainspotting).
With interest in Robert Pattinson very high, I’d imagine as soon as they are filming at any outside location, images are going to leak from the set. More as we get it.
Ooh It's all getting exciting now huh?
Thanks to RobPattzNews for the tip
unfortunately I don't think there will be a lot of outside images shot. Just saying a lot of this movie is taking place behind closed doors. Maybe some street scenes.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait!!! *ok breathe*
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Very exciting! I think this movie is going to pretty much leave me speechless - I cannot wait.
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ReplyDeleteHe's so cute in that picture! I wanna give him a big hug and hide him away and give him icecream! :)
ReplyDeleteI agree a lot of the movie does take place behind close doors which is fine by me, I can't wait to see some hot bedroom Rob!! He is going to be great in this film.
ReplyDeleteAwesome picture Kate! Thank you :) I was just checking here to see if I could get a Rob fix, before I go study and there he is with a smile even! I may need to take a moment now to catch my breath, then try to study. Thanks for the info too!
ReplyDeleteSo exciting!!!
ReplyDeleteCan not wait!!!
Oh yes, this is very exciting indeed!!! Can't wait!!! Can't wait!!! Can't wait!!!
ReplyDeleteI love the photo used. I don't remember seeing it before. Rob looks so lovely and adorable here. And his smile is like the best thing ever:D Love him!
@ Butterfly, I so agree. Kate, that is one amazing pic. He has such a great smile!
ReplyDeleteAWESOME cast... cannot wait.
ReplyDeleteSo exciting, but I agree Teri, we won't see much in the way of shooting....
ReplyDeleteVery excited, too. Not quite the full cast list but rest will be filled in soon. It will be great to see Rob in period costume again. Also, without, I imagine...;)
ReplyDelete10 million pound smile!!!!
ReplyDeleteFILMT!!!!!! from here to smile! :D
Wow! This is quite the production team assembled. Very impressive. As for location shooting...
ReplyDeleteSome. Most likely Budapest for the exteriors. It has an old world look to it and they'll be trying to re-create 1890's Paris. Because of what happened in NY last summer, I can't imagine they'd attempt to shoot on the streets of London. Maybe a little, but not extensively. And if they're smart, they'll keep the shooting schedule very close to the vest and maybe even send out red herrings.
He just doesn't need Remember Me, part duex. I'm kind of a hard ass on this issue. Going to see him at an announced public appearance...fine. Going to his place of work and disturbing that work...not so fine.
Anyone coming to Budapest? :)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0wkokaybWA
Shit. Don't go to Budapest. Leave him the fuck alone and let him do his goddamn job. How would we like it if a horde of strangers showed up at our place of work and just stood there and stared at us all day? How would that effect your job performance? How would your co-workers like it as it could affect their work too? Please just leave him be.
ReplyDeleteWe'll get our pictures. The papps will be lying in wait for him; in London going to and from the studio. In Budapest on location. Let that be enough.
Note to self:( No Rob fix's before studying:( Stupid girl. What was I thinking!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations Goz!!!! I hope its what you were looking for!
ReplyDeleteSome might say, we wouldn't disturb him, we'd just stand there quietly. But it would be a disturbance because you're not suppose to be there. He's performing for a camera, not a live audience and quiet though you might be, your presence would still be a distraction for him and his castmates. Besides...
ReplyDeleteBecause of what happened last summer, security might be so tight that you wouldn't get anywhere near that set and so your trip and the money spent would be for naught.
I'm not trying to be a bitch and I understand the need that alot have to try to catch even a glimpse of him. But this is not the time or place for that. If you really love him, put him first. Show him and his work a little respect.
RobεяT PaէէἶῆʂOῆ <3 <3 <3 HE is so hot on this picture :D
ReplyDeleteI'm so looking forward to this movie. Great cast. Love, love, love Colm Meaney, since his Star Trek days.
ReplyDeleteSexy Rob in all his glory. Oh be still my heart. I'm dead.
ReplyDelete@Kate, Love the new picture as I too love smiling Rob the best. (I love Rob anyway I can get him really) :-)
Will someone please tell me what Operation Robstock is? Missed out on that one.
Wow! The cast and crew are brilliant. Maybe Rob is co-producing Bel Ami, too, like he did in Remember Me. Rob is so smart. Oh! Rob/Duroy will kill me. I have already began my own research about the final of 19th century in Paris ( paintings, clothes...). I love to do these things. It is so exciting!
ReplyDeleteAbout the picture: All we need is Rob smiling, always!
The production designer also did one of my favourite movies, Sunshine, which has a great atmosphere (though the trailer rather includes the gloomy parts), and I'm sure he'll do a good job again:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJXlNgnQTk
...cant wait!!
ReplyDeleteAh, I can't wait to see this movie!
ReplyDeleteErotically charged film?
YES!
I am flying to Budapest on 10th and will be there on 11th, 21-22nd.
ReplyDeleteIs there any chance he will be there on these days? :D
For me it will be enough just run into him at the airport :) I promise no fan-girl scream, no harassment.
Oh yes, it IS getting exciting now - I can't wait to see some pix from this movie and see if he keeps the beard or not - hope not. But he should keep the mustache.
ReplyDeleteI still think Uma would be better as Clotilde - I just picture that character as a statuesque blonde like Nicole Kidman but......we'll see how i goes.
Rob's sure doing a lot of sexually charged things lately - the nude models with Detail photo shoot, Bel Ami and then Breaking Dawn, oh my!!
And then Kristen's playing a 16 y/o stripper pole dancing in Welcome to the Rileys.........man, they are both doing some more R rated types of movies to get away from the teeny bopper stuff I guess and get a more mature audience base that more critics will notice as well.
The only problem is ........the waiting!!!
oh, oh, oh....
ReplyDeleteI'm sooo excited... I loooveeed this novel since I've read it years ago.
I'm from Hungary, and living now in London.... whis I could go home in april to see the exterior scenes...
but! if I'm lucky I'll bump into Rob here in London somewhere. :D
love love LOVED the Young Victoria so I am glad to see some names from that film, it was an awesome film!
ReplyDeleteWhat man really what's to see a girl standing in public screeming? I can think of much more appropriate moments for screaming ;p
ReplyDeleteThis cast receives my seal of approval :D!
ReplyDelete*stamp*
I really can't wait for this one, I've been waiting for so long, since he mentioned it in passing in that interview last year (was it the GQ one? I can't recall)!
Cherri...
ReplyDeleteEspecially because with this particular man, the screaming frightens him. He once said that he imagined that the high pitched sound of girls screaming is what we would hear upon entering the gates of hell.
As for location filming...
Since they're starting production in London, I seriously doubt they'll be in Budapest until sometime in March as it looks like they're doing the interiors first (including all the sexy bedroom stuff) and then wrapping it up with the exteriors. Just a guess.
csucsok - I think they move the production over to Budapest on April 5th. How long they will be there I don't know, but they're hoping to wrap the whole film by the end of April :)
ReplyDeleteRe: Screaming..........I only saw one video of Rob semi-losing it over the screaming when he yelled at the girls to SHUT UP which of course they didn't cause him saying that was enough to make them scream more. I don't see how he EVER kept his cool with that going on - I absolutely HATE watching the you tubes of Rob that have all the screaming on them - you can't tell what the hell is going on and it's just very very stressful feeling and irritating cause you can't hear HIM!!!
ReplyDeleteI'd need a spa vacation for a week after those screaming gates of hell noises were injected in my ears. He should at least wear some ear plugs.
Have been reading about Salvador Dali - home sick again from work today - and watched Little Ashes last night. Dali was quite a wierd dude. My fave art and music is from the impressionist era so his art doesn't appeal to me but his life story is one hell of a roller coaster.
@Cherri - yeah, I wonder if Rob likes a screamer in bed..............hmmmmm, probably not, maybe a moaner?? Or someone to just whisper your name gently........I can do whatever, babe!!
ReplyDeleteThey're looking to wrap this by the end of April??? Wow! That's nearly a three month shooting schedule. They shot RM in seven weeks. Hmmm...I thought this was a 'smaller' picture. Maybe not. And now that I think of it, with this production team assembled, not a little film at all.
ReplyDeleteI'm telling you, if the studio thinks the finished product is good enough to contend for awards, they'll try to get this out by year's end rather than the proposed early 2011. If they do wrap by end of April, that would give them at least a 7 month post. More than enough time to release it by year's end.
Nik - Remember that the time frame includes relocation to Budapest time and Rob's RM promotion :)
ReplyDeleteMatildalovesRob - Thanks the info.
ReplyDeleteI will fly back to Dublin on 22nd.
But hmmm... It will give me a reason to visit my parents sometime in April?!?!?
"I promise never to screem at Rob." I also understand that moaning and whipering are optional. Hell I'll be far too speechless to get that far. I'll be the nice girl standing there with the dazed look on her face. If any of you are there you have my permission to smack me on the back and tell me to snap out of it.
ReplyDeleteI think it interesting that most of you are aware of how much Rob hates screaming, because he has said so, and we have seen his reactions, but don't seem so aware of how he feels about nudity: that he is uncomfortable with the idea of nudity in front of others and that he was traumatized about it as a child. He did say he would consider it for a film, depending on what it was, but that he was quite embarrassed and uncomfortable with his turn in Little Ashes.
ReplyDeletewow--agnes--I never met up with anyone else who saw and considered as among their favourites the movie Sunshine. It was really cathartic for me in a way, because after seeing Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List, I was actually terrified of him, didn't want to see his face; his character had been so sanely calmly terrifying to me. But in Sunshine, he redeemed himself. Of course, In Harry Potter, he is scary again, but masked enough to not throw me back.
To those of you more familiar with the film industry than I (which I would think is all of you): Has there ever been a nomination, let alone an award, for an actor who was in a terrible movie? Or at least one not popular? It seems to me that most awards, especially the Oscars, are like a popularity contest either for popular 'actors'/movie stars who 'play the game' or for actors in movies that touch social themes that are the flavour of the day. Have there been excellent, noteworthy performances by actors in films that were not popular, or that actually were not good, or is an actor's recognition affected by the films he does, are his skills judged by his skills in choosing films and castmates as well?
ReplyDeleteIf RM doesn`t kill me...this movie definitely will!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd what a sweet death it will be!! =)
Solas...
ReplyDeleteI don't ever recall Rob saying he was traumitized in childhood by nudity. I'm not saying he didn't say it. I'm saying, I never heard him say it (although I seriously doubt I've heard EVERY interview he's given). But a funny thing about actors...
They like to be challenged (stepping outside their own boundaries) and in alot of cases, that which frightens them is what they find most challenging. Actors will do things in front of a camera that they wouldn't even dream of doing in their own lives. They somehow have that ability to seperate the two; a character they're portraying from their own selves. It's what makes them such paradoxes...and such interesting people.
As for Sunshine...
One of my favorites too. I'm a huge Ralph Fiennes fan. I think he's one of the greatest actors in the world.
But I'll never forgive him for putting his filthy foot on Rob's beautiful face in GOF. When Harry screamed out...'don't touch him.' I had the same thought...'don't you touch that beautiful, innocent boy with your filth.' And I wasn't even a Rob fan then. Had no idea who he was. But I sure did think that Cedric Diggory was a gorgeous, sweet boy.
Even when I saw Rob at Comic Con in 2008. I didn't make the HP connection until I started learning about him on the net. I remember thinking...'oh my god. he was Cedric.'
woohoooo I live in Budapest!!! and just so you know screaming whenever you see someone famous is a typical american tradition...anyways i'll look out for anyone from the cast. And Sunshine is one of my fave movies too
ReplyDeletewow--all these years I actually have never even met anyone who saw Sunshine, and now I see several who know it and like it!! Despite being freaked out or shocked by some of the stuff here, I must be in the right place after all!
ReplyDeleteSolas...
ReplyDeleteJust one more thing about the nudity...
Little Ashes. Even though he was embarressed and uncomfortable (and that I did hear him say) with the nudity involved...he did it anyway. That's what I'm saying. As an actor, he will do things that are going to frighten and embarrass him as he will see those as challenges.
As for nominations...
Who knows? I personally think nominations and wins are all about timing. A performance that might have been overlooked five years ago, would be recognized today and visa versa.
There have been plenty of actors who've won awards in so-so films and others who have been overlooked in great films. Being part of the Hollywood establishment was more important in the past than I think is true today. Films are too international now.
Some strange screw ups when it comes to Mr. Oscar...
Two actors who were suppose to win (not just be nominated, but WIN) for their performances (they were shoo ins), never even got nominatied; John Travolta in Get Shorty and Michael Douglas in Wonder Boys.
The academy has chosen to send Richard Burton to his grave without an Oscar and will most likely do the same with Peter O'Toole; two of the greatest actors who have ever lived. And they've never nominated Donald Sutherland or Martin Sheen for squat and again, two of the greatest actors ever. They have however chosen to bestow their highest honor upon one Miss Tatum O'Neal, a woman of absolutely no discernable talent whatsoever, making her the youngest winner at the age of 10.
In 1993 in the Best Supporting Actor catagory you had two of the greatest performances in recent history; Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List and Leonardo DiCaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape (the roles which made them stars) and the academy gave it to Tommy Lee Jones in The Fugitive. Fine actor, strong performance but not even in the same league as those other two performances.
You can't take it too seriously. The Oscars started out as a public relations thing to get people to go to the movies and somehow it's turned into one of the biggest things on earth. It isn't even a true peer award as the academy voters are made up of actors, directors, producers, writers, editors, cinematographers, art directors, costume designers, etc.
The true acting award is the SAG; the Screen Actor's Guild Award. That is their union award, they only give out acting awards and they are only voted on by actors.
You win an Oscar...you got lucky. You win a SAG...and your fellow actors have given you their highest honor.
Sorry 'bout that long OT post. Just wanted to explain that to Solas.
ReplyDeleteBel Ami is gonna be great. Hope you keep the beard for it Rob.
There. Back on track.
Solas, hopefully you check back in here...like Nik, I've never heard him refer to any childhood trauma, which doesn't mean he's never said it, but I'm curious-where did you hear that?
ReplyDeletethe idea that he's had that kind of trauma makes me incredibly sad. :(
It actually wasn't off topic, as this thread s about the cast of Bel Ami with Rob, and logically within this are sub-topics of Rob starring with high-profiles actors/stars, as well as rob developing as an actor with diverse roles, which leads me to wonder when and how he will be recognized--if it will be for his own skill, or if it will depend on the movie and/or castmates.
ReplyDeleteI've not only read him saying it, I am pretty sure I saw him say it.
ReplyDeleteMatildalovesrob, you're right, I've also read the shooting in budapest will start on April 5th.
ReplyDeleteHere's the link, scroll down for the Update. As of me, I understand they'll be staying in Budapest only for that week, no more.
http://thinkingofrob.com/2010/02/02/bel-ami-casting-complete-and-filming-to-begin-february-7th/
He was remarking the differences in cultures about nudity--that in one place, I think Spain, they were so casual about it, but he has what he feels are British sensitivities about it, a more modest (some might say prudish), and he said he was traumatized as a child walking on his father.
ReplyDeleteIt is also logical within his personality as expressed in interviews, that although he speaks freely about some things, especially in a self-deprecating way, that he has a sense of privacy and is uncomfortable with some things being displayed for all.
thanks for answering, Solas. I hadn't seen/heard about that.
ReplyDeleteLOVE this nice clean shaven picture of Rob with a wonderful smile. Doesn't his happy face just make you feel great??????
ReplyDeleteI have to remember to smile more often - maybe I'll pay it forward like Rob does.
: ^ )
sorry again--that should have been--walking IN on his father.
ReplyDeleteFor the most part Solas, an actor is recognized because of his or her OWN performance. The other things; co-stars, quality of the film, etc., those things aren't going to get an actor an Oscar. He or she has got to deliver a performance that the academy deems worthy.
ReplyDeleteAnd then there's that timing thing AND has the actor paid his dues? Winslet won for the first time last year with her sixth nomination in 13 years. Depp and DiCaprio (with about a half a dozen nominations between them) have yet to win and they've given wonderful performances in some wonderful films (Johnny had been acting in films for over a decade before he got his first nod).
It's all timing, luck and most importantly, an actor's own performance.
Solas your making me sad. I always try to remind myself when I meet new people that someday I may learn something about them or share something about myself. It always feels like such a huge growing experience, when I learn something private. I always feel so blessed to learn these kinds of things about someone I care about. Now I can understand him a little better.
ReplyDeleteI remember Rob saying on Ellen he was shocked when he saw his Dad changing clothes as a kid but he didn't say traumatized or I didn't get an indication he was mentally scarred by that event!!!!!!!!! c'mon - don't make something out of that.
ReplyDeletefem--his exact word was traumatized. Then he said he freaked out. He was explaining why, as an Englishman, he felt uncomfortable about nudity compared to the crew in Spain.
ReplyDeleteIt could have been oedipal-- that he was not like his father--or, more likely, he might have been yelled at for walking in on his father like that, which gave him an idea that you don't look at other people naked, and you don't let yourself be looked at that way.
That's makes sense Solas; his proper english upbringing and all. I guess we've all been a bit traumatized when catching our parents and realizing for the first time that they were more than just mom and dad. And yes, I do see Rob as a very private person when it comes to himself. It's funny. He's given lots of interviews and shared lots of information about himself and yet in so many ways, he remains mysterious. How does he do that?
ReplyDeleteBut alot of private, shy people end up in the acting profession and it's no accident. People act because they need to express themselves as something other than themselves and they need the approval for it. That's why they do it.
And they'll be done filming by mid April? That makes a little more sense to me. And subtract a little time for him to go promote RM (although they'll keep the cameras rolling for scenes he isn't in. Are there any scenes he isn't in? LOL) and travel time, this will be about a two month shoot. That's what I originally thought it would be.
I mean, if they can shoot an X-Men movie in 5 months, why would they need 3 to make a little costume drama like Bel Ami?
I remember Rob talking about his nuerotic nature; paranoid that people were always looking at him, his quirky fears.
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning, I'll be honest, I thought he might be a bit of a headcase and thought that maybe acting was not the profession for him. But he appears to be handling himself beautifully and maybe it's acting that's going to keep him sane.
It's been the salvation of more than a few. Alot of actors/artists have said that if they couldn't express themselves artistically, that they'd go mad. So far...he 'appears' to be holding up just fine.
Now. If people will just stop screaming at him.
@Solas
ReplyDelete"Has there ever been a nomination, let alone an award, for an actor who was in a terrible movie? "
I don`t remember any case like this but sometimes actors win awards for less important films of their careers. For example: Russell Crowe. He was marvellous in "L.A. Confidential" and superb in "The Insider". He was not even nominated for the first film and not won for the second one because of his temper and not because his acting habilities. He was nominated and won for "The Gladiator" which is a minor movie ( in my opinion) comparing with the others I have cited because at this time he was married and had a good behavior.
In any case, I remembered two cases which depend of your taste: Sylvester Stalone was nominated for Oscar as actor for "Rocky" and John Travolta for "Saturday Night Fever".
I love Ralph Fiennes too, he is great in Schindler`s List, English Patient, The End of the Affair, Spider, The Constant Gardener, and more recently in The Duchess and In Bruges. Did you see him as Heathcliff in a version of Wuthering Heights with Juliette Binoche? Spielberg saw Ralph in this movie and then called him for Schindler`s List.
I did not see Sunshine yet.
Nik--I might not know the movie world, but I do know quite a lot about, and deal with on a daily basis, childhood traumas/ children who were traumatized--even something as seemingly trivial or minor (to some adults) as seeing one's parent naked, let alone being yelled out, etc. That is why I especially noted when Rob said that.
ReplyDeleteRPG--don't worry about your granddaughter and the sparkly unicorn-- YOU were the one traumatized there. ;-)
JC--yes! I saw him as Heathcliffe!! I have that video!! He was intense!!!!Exactly what the role called for!!!
ReplyDeleteNikola--I have been concerned for Rob psychologically since I started watching and reading his interviews. I can sift through what is silliness and what is real, and I worry for him. But in some ways, as you say, acting can be good for him, as he can tuck his Self away and also learn more about himself by exploring characters. He is doing much better now; I think he has a better handle on what came as an onslaught, and he has developed some coping mechanisms (speaking in 2nd person rather than 1st person; hiding out and reading, etc). I know some will get upset about this but, I think Kristen has been a saving grace for Rob. I have no idea of the specifics of the relationship, but at the very least Rob has said more than once that she can relate more than anyone to what he is going through; that he admires her film choice and career path; plus they have very common approaches to character and film.
One of my concerns for Rob is the possibility of his losing touch with his Self because he is going almost nonstop with the films. He needs a break between each film to get back into touch with his Self, and to grow, without taking on the personas of characters. This is one of the reasons I had said several times I wish he could talk with DDL, who also intensely gets into his characters, but then takes a break and breathes his own breath, lives his own soul.
@RPG - You should only be traumatized with the discovery of the battery-operated, sparkly purple device if Lily took it for Show-n-Tell without your knowledge!
ReplyDeleteNow, that would require hospitalization.
Can't write much here, gotta scoot. But I did want to say to Solas that I agree with you.
ReplyDeleteKristen...I think she is good for him as I think they're like two little peas in a pod and nobody knows what this experience has been like, except the two of them.
Him taking breaks...ABSOLUTELY!!! And I'm hoping that his first big break will be coming up in about a year or so. By the end of this year he will have been working for two years nearly non-stop inhabiting several characters. And I do think he inhabits them. Or them him.
All actors NEED something else in their lives besides acting. Something else that they can be passionate about. I don't care if it's tiddly winks. Something. For Rob, perhaps that will be his music. But again, if he decides to go pro with it, then, he's back in the 'business' again. I'm talking about something AWAY from the business.
You mentioned Daniel Day Lewis. He's a shoe cobbler. Yup. When he's not making movies, he makes shoes.
Maybe Rob could learn to crochet? LOL!
Will try to come back later and chat.
I think DDL is also a carpeter. I would love to see Rob take up something like that.
ReplyDeleteI understand that he writes. That could be good, and cathartic as well.
Solas -
ReplyDeleteRob teases and stretches the truth and out and out lies about stuff sometimes to get a laugh - you can't take that as meaning he was mentally screwed up from seeing his dad change clothes...........Please!!! That's ridiculous.
It was on the most recent Ellen interview where he said it.......and his dad was sitting right there in the audience.
And when she asked him if he would do a nude scene and he said - maybe if the part called for it.........I was curious about that cause he'd already done a nude scene in Little Ashes and in Haunted Airman.
He had no idea LA would get the audience it is getting now that he's a big star.......I wonder if he is embarassed about that or glad for the film? It was a visually and aurally beautiful film but there were a lot of holes in the story that needed filling - it could have covered a lot more information about Dali's life, I thought.
Fem--he has said it more than once. Way before his last Ellen appearance. He didn't say 'mentally screwed up'; he said 'traumatized', and little shocks like that in childhood DO traumatize and affect one's personalities and inclinations. Perhaps you feel his discomfort with nudity in front of others as screwed up; I don't. I see it as a logical part of being raised in a society like England and probably getting yelled out for nudity or for seeing others' nudity. Again--this is my field, and I keep an eye and ear on this kind of thing, and can tell when someone (especially this lad) is giving a twist and a grin. You will take it as you will, obviously.
ReplyDeleteSolas
ReplyDeleteHelp me understand this statement.
"I think Kristen has been a saving grace for Rob."
Can't wait to see him on the big screen. :0)
ReplyDeleteAwesome picture. :0)
ReplyDeleteSolas, I'm glad you finally found some Sunshine lovers. :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Henci - screaming at celebrities is not a normal or usual thing to do in Hungary. It's such a small country that we meet our favourite actors day by day on the street, in a store, wherever, and it's totally natural. I'm not sure about how fucked up or globalized the younger generations might be, but I'd be quite surprised to see some insane frenzy, even around Rob.
Agnes, I do think it is cultural; societies that are refined, especially through time, and/ or that value manners and politeness, seem to not raise screamers and people who would intrude on one's private life and workspace.
ReplyDeleteBut i agree it will be interesting to see, as the younger generations are more globally connected to a universal culture via media and internet, if they will acquire their birth society's manners, or the values of the global market.
Solas...
ReplyDeleteI'm curious what you though of the 'budda' story. When I first heard him tell it, I laughed till I cried and thought...'he is completely bonkers.' But upon a second viewing (and having learned a bit more about him; the childhood paranoia that seemed to have followed him into adulthood), suddenly, that story didn't seem so funny to me anymore (this was during the fall of 2008 when he was dealing with that first onslaught of fame which I do believe, he's got a much firmer grip on to today)
If he was making it up, then fine. Big joke. Ha Ha. But if he wasn't, if he really believed that happened to him, would you call that a 'break' from reality?
I ask because my former brother in law is a highly intelligent, extremely artistic, driven and accomplished man who is tormented by paranoia which overtook him in adolescence. It carried through to adulthood and at 29 he completely broke down and was diagnosed as paranoid schizofrenic (I know. I just butched the spelling of that word)
Just curious of your thoughts here. And please let me say, I highly respect your opinions.
Cherr--a 'saving grace' as I use it, is a blessing or help (divine or human, although I personally believe all is ultimately from the Divine, directly or indirectly)that aids a person in his shortcomings or challenges. Rob was challenged tremendously with the sudden onslaught of noise and attention; it literally scared him and hopefully not out of his wits, although it might have been precarious at times. Kristen is at the very least a kindred spirit, creative, thinking, and experiencing what Rob was at the same time, providing commmiseration and companion to at least talk things through and gain perspective.
ReplyDeleteBel Ami better be Rated R, none of that PG-13 bull$#%^!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is great news. I think he is happiest when he is working just now so that means as of the 7th he will be completely immersed in Bel Ami for a while. Does anyone know how long filming is scheduled to take? This sounds like a very talented group of artists both in front of and behind the cameras. Can't wait for it to hit my theater.
ReplyDeleteSolas
ReplyDeleteThank you!
"Perhaps you feel his discomfort with nudity in front of others as screwed up; I don't. I see it as a logical part of being raised in a society like England"
ReplyDeleteSolas -.......I'm trying to say I don't think he has as much of a problem with it as you seem to think, (my opinion).......he's an actor.......can put himself in the role and separate real life from acting. True, He has a Catholic, upper class, upbringing and it seems only natural that anyone would most likely have a problem with taking their clothes off in front of a camera - hell, I'd be worried if he WEREN'T a little concerned about that.
nikola-- I have mixed feelings about this. First response: My fervent hope is that he made it up, or that is highly exaggerated.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, pyschologcally speaking, children, usually younger than his 'episode' often have a 'mentor' or 'symbol' or 'inner guide' that is from the subconscious, really their nascient Selves that they haven't fully conscoulsy realized yet (sometimes because they cannot handle it or face it yet). The longer a person holds on to this, the more danger there is for him, psychologcally.
Spiritually, though, I do believe people get guidance, or at least input, that is not tangible and not consciously obtained. It is often 'translated' in the mind according to the culture of the person (western christians might see western artists' fair and blue-eyed depictions of their lord, eastern christians see their own culture's dark hair dark eyed depictions; muslims might see mohammed, and a teen -or even adult- who is learning about eastern religions might see the Buddha, etc. The spiritual, which is not tangible, gets translated or filtered into the 'language' of a person's psyche and experience.
I am sorry for your brother-out-law. It (PS)is difficult for everyone.
Rob's paranoia does not seem schizo at all, but seems rooted in childhood fears although many of his fears (of crowds, of being hit by a car, of being physically accosted) have actually come true, so who knows? I don't see his fears as unhealthy, but, again, I don't know him personally and can only observe from a distance via videos and interviews.
Bel Ami will be a great movie and Rob, certainly, is building a brilliant career, with the support of the people he loves most, that is why he is London. He is such a blessed young man: he is intelligent, loves reading, has great sense of humor.
ReplyDeleteRob's filmmaking is moving right along and we'll be right there with him every inch of the way. Pics or no pics, we'll be there in spirit.
ReplyDeleteCast and crew~awesome!
Cannot wait for all the surprizes heading our way this year.
FILTM
Cherri--you are welcome!
ReplyDeleteJC--I agree--he is terrific!
CW&IA (Clipped Wings & Inked Armor) just updated.
ReplyDeleteThank you Solas...
ReplyDeleteI don't really think he's a whack job. Well. Maybe just a little. But then, aren't we all? (and I would never use the term 'whack job' in front of someone that I knew was ill; my brother in law and my best friend since kindergarden; also a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic)
As for Brits dropping their knickers in front of the cameras...off the top of my head, I can name you two...
Kate Winslet (she's been nude in practically every film she's ever made)
Ralph Fiennes (he's even done full frontal nudity which is very rare for male actors)
I've just never been under the impression that english actors are reticent about nudity on film. I always thought they were more casual about it because they're European and they don't seem to have the hang ups that puritanical (and hypocritical) America does.
Now maybe english 'people' are more reticent, but not their artists. And my own personal feelings about Rob on the subject?
If the role calls for it, he'll do it. He already has. Whether it embarrasses him or makes him uncomfortable, he'll do it. Don't be surprised if he isn't nude somewhere in this film that's about to commence. Just a guess.
A very good guess.
Actually...
ReplyDeleteMy best friend and I use the term 'whack job' all the time and that's because she didn't lose her sense of humour.
My brother in law on the other hand? Never. Of course he never did have a sense of humour.
Back when I was thinking that Rob might be a bit troubled, I was always comforted by the fact that he did have a sense of humour. I remember thinking...if anything can get him through all of this, it will be his ability to laugh.
I know if I couldn't laugh at life, I'd have probably exited stage right, awhile ago.
Wonder if this is a new pic. Maybe he is already shaved to start filming. Hum...
ReplyDeleteRob, you're Beautiful!
Muah!:x
JC, I'll email Paris Film and Imovision, too.
ReplyDeleteMuah! :x
Very very unfortunately and sadly, I have seen totally disturbed, mad individuals who laughed, who could laugh at life. A sense of humour doesn't neccessarily save a person nor is it indicative of sanity or even coping. It can, however, be a release from stress and tension, which is surely helpful.
ReplyDeleteI have seen such pain, such suffering, such abuse, that I could find little or no humour, and only the ache to help and relieve the pain.
Capitu
ReplyDeleteWow!!!! Hello!
Love your name! I`m a huge fan of Machado de Assis, mainly Dom Casmurro.
Thank you!!!!
Beijos pra você também!!!
Kisses.
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ReplyDeleteJC, if you think of anything else, just write here, on this site ~ the brazilian girls will come to help. There are many of us lurking here.
ReplyDelete(I left my email, then I deleted. I don't know if you had time to see it)
Btw, I (Capitu) did not cheat on Bentinho... I loved him! (I think...)
Muah! :x
Well now I'm a little jumpy here. I always thought that my ability to laugh in the face of emotional pain or adversity was, in part, the thing that was helping to keep the demons at bay. I always thought...if I can laugh at 'em, they can't get me. I'm serious. I've always thought that.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought I was doing okay but it appears I'm still crazier than a shithouse bat.
Not gonna stop laughing though. I do that and I'll end up with a toe tag.
nikola--Don't stop laughing!
ReplyDeleteagnes - Right? Also, even if he were out somewhere I think someone who doesn't know that he's shooting in Hungary would think that he's either a homeless person with the beard that he was sporting lol or by the time they convince themselves that it's really him, i mean what would Rpattz be doing here, he would be gone.
ReplyDelete@henci+agnes:
ReplyDeletehello you guys. me and two friends are planing to go to budapest. Its not far for us and we've never been there, so we planed to go there when the shooting is. we dont even know when that is, but maybe you can help? any good suggestions where to stay in budapest? you have a emal adress, so i could write you maybe? would be cool:-)
Agnes, really, you often see actors in Budapest? who have u seen so far? That's great that you guys in Hongary can behave without all the screaming.
ReplyDeleteSteffi, where are u from?
Continued twits to ROBsessed post about Bel Ami music tutor www.twitter.com/benparkermusic:
ReplyDelete31 January/1 February
~ this week has been the big tweet week (tweek?). It seems my Rob Pattinson #BelAmi connection is enough to get a man everywere
~ @EyesofAmberBlog i've not got to the 'getting presents from RP' stage yet ;-)
~ Feb/March - i'm not sire if they'll need me on set. of course I'm going to insist ;-)
~ Hello all you #BelAmi folk. if you're new and wondering who the HECK you think i am check http://bit.ly/cDkkpo
~ @QueenAliParker ahh, your music recs. will be checked. i didn't know RP sang either! [reply on @QueenAliParker: PS...I think he's a great singer too from what I've heard. So, you are a voice coach? I used to do that about 10 yrs ago]
2/3 February
~ right. i've been away but i'm back. it's been a good day. more work organized for the #BelAmi movie
~ @hduval not sure yet if they'll be any on-set stuff for me at the moment. we'll have to see how things go [reply to @hduval: good hows the #belami stuff coming along? i heard filming starts in a week or so]
~ @hduval i believe so. i think my stuff isn't happening until march
~ my first film was the John Lennon Biopic 'Nowhere Boy' last year and things have gently blossomed since then.
@Robine: I'm from austria. where are you from?
ReplyDeleteCapitu, Crazy Vamp, Ana, brazilian girls.
ReplyDeleteYou may send me an e-mail, when you want or need me any time:
expojc@gmail.com.
Capitu:
I don´t see your e-mail but you can send it for me if you want. Oh! I do not think Capitu cheated on Bentinho. I am not the kind of person who judges people ( I am not angry, it is a joke, ok? ) I am very open. Do you think Rob would like to read Dom Casmurro?
Kisses!!!!
can't wait to see ricci and rob light up the bed room and carriage. Just re-read belami and the book got 10times better picturing Rob as bel ami. Really think it is great he gets to stay near home for filming. But it will be nice to get some new pics. This drought is killing me!
ReplyDeleteSteffi, I'm from France.
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