Extra! Countdown to "Eclipse"



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MatildalovesRob said...

Woohoo !! I prefer Eclipse to New Moon but Bella's confusion over Jacob drives me around the bend in Eclipse ! I'd imagine the issues with BD are probably finding a time when Kris & Rob are free to film BD and how many films that they're both willing to sign up to I guess.

rpattzgirl said...

I can't see the video... but I'm really hoping (as we always do) that DS kept the romance and not just focused on the fight.

I know they did the tent scene because of his "tweets", and he had said early on in shooting that they filmed Edward & bella rolling around in the meadow together ( I assume last scene) and we know the real proposal is there as MR said there is... so that's good!

Can't wait!

solas said...

I liked new Moon best--the emotional and psychological pain and toll were so deeply purely accurately distressing.

Eclipse has its points, especially fleshing out personalities even more, and, I feel, conclusively showing Edward to be the better man (even though I did not like Jacob's character in New moon anyway, and cannot figure out why anyone would say he was the better choice for Bella).

Not reading the books or looking forward to the movies because of leg hitches or any other voyeuristic or vicarious phantasies, I ultimately want to see the love story between Edward and Bella flourish. I also appreciate that Bella was able to show herself, still as a mortal, as at least as prescient as Alice, with an even clearer perception than Edward had. Most of all, I like the resolution in Eclipse of Edward being able to prove himself to Bella, after his disasterous decision at the beginning of New Moon, and all of its ramifications; in Eclipse he was able to stay with her, never leave her, and finally eliminate what would harm her, protect her in a way that was good for her, good for them both.

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sue said...

mmm YES!! Eclipse is my favorite book along with BD!
It were those 2 books that I couldn't put down!.. Yes to leg hitches and the awesome interaction between not only the three main characters but the beginning of the major commitment between Bella and Edward...!!!!

solas said...

I don't think a Breaking Dawn script will be an easy thing to write. I am not too impressed with the screenplays anyway(although I haven't a clue as to how to write one; yet I feel certain crucial dialogue was sorely absent, especially in Bella's and Edward's reunion in New Moon). To inegrate the BD resolutions of so many factors seems, to me, not possible to do well in one movie. I wonder if that is one of the issues--whether to make one or two movies out of it, and if two, where to break it up. Also, Renesmee was a crucial (albeit disturbing)character (everything-- transformation for Bella, solution for Jacob, showdown with Volturi, acceptance for Charlie, and peace and cooperation between the Cullens and the Quielutes, revolves around/hinges upon Renesmee) , and I imagine she will be hard to put/portray onto screen.

jc said...

@solas/rpattzgirl
agree w/you 100%. I am so 100% Edward/Bella, I totally understand Jacob's role, but literally could not wait for him to get his own life and leave Bella the f*&k alone romantically. Also, I hope BD is one movie, because I am not the F*&k getting any younger. Besides CGI is so advanced even commercials look pretty good. Renesmee rarely speaks, so hopefully that won't be a huge issue. Really looking forward to Eclipse. I follow DS because of Rob news, but for the life of me, I think he's in another zone. His twitter posts look like navy flag signals to me. Hope he does the movie justice.

sinem said...

is there any difference between "fall" and "autumn" ?? aren't they both have the same meanings?

Butterfly said...

"fall" is in British English and "autumn" in American English.

Am I right???

Haystackhair said...

@solas and rpattzgirl, as usual, I am on the same page as you two 100%. I thought Jake was a sweet character in NM, but hated him in Eclipse, and I wanted to smack Bella a few times letting him get away with being a meddling jerk. I think she unintentionally hurt Edward by doing that. Anyway, I'm getting nervous because I keep reading the war in more part of the movie than the love, and I soooo want some happy tender Edward and Bella moments. And the leg hitch, and the Bella seduction of Edward for the WIN!!! GAH!

Haystackhair said...

We call it either fall or autumn in America.

riddleinside said...

English people don't use the word "fall", well at least I've always thought so. That means Rob is speaking more and more with an American accent :)

Kelly Louise. said...

Seven months? *dies*

I'll stick to the Christmas countdown for now.. I can't think that far ahead.

solas said...

Fall is colloquial; autumn is from the autumnal equinox.

Kelly Louise. said...

By the way, I've noticed that, too.. Rob talking more and more American.. except when he's being interviewed/around English people.. but his accent is less British and he is talking with more American-y words. Such a shame, such a shame..

D.M. said...

Okay what is their problem? Why are they trying so hard to ruin Eclipse for the fans?

Why do they keep talking about the action and not the heart/soul of the movie and the basic storyline of the saga which is the E/B romance? The romance is what makes this saga great and refreshing, and it is what got this series so successful and got ALL of us the fans!

Sometimes I get the feeling that they are trying desperately to get the male audience. I've got news for them, there were a lot of males in the theater when I went to see NM, and I'm thinking most of them know that the Twilight saga is a ROMANCE.

If someone is not open minded enough to actually enjoy a character driven, emotional storyline/saga, then they can go find some of those shallow comic book movies to enjoy! The Twilight saga doesn't need them!

So why are they still trying so desperately to appeal to the type of males who will NEVER like Twilight (I didn't see them trying to appeal to the females when advertising the stupid incoherent "the dark knight", or "spiderman" or other stupid comic book movies).

Sometimes it makes me really sad, as long as hollywood is controlled by men there will never be epic/sweeping movies for women in the amount of movies being produced for men.

And I really can NOT endure another movie where they cut us short on E/B! They need to start talking about the ROMANCE if they want Eclipse to break ALL the records.

80% of their viewers are women, they need to get with the program already!

Solas I agree with most of what you said.

*sad sigh*

solas said...

Kelly- he actually remarked on that subtly in at least 2instances, and I am wondering if he was serious, yet it seems he was and makes sense considering his personality: He said he found he was using American accent when greeting fans, and that he used American accents to deal with the hype but his own real British accent when he was on his own time, with friends and family. He has said many times (innacurately, I feel)that the fans are crazy about Edward the character, and not about Rob himself. It is a way of divorcing his real self from all of the attention that he feels is too much; he can place the hoopla on Edward and thus use the American accent with fans as it is (acc to his -IMHO- incorrect assessment)Edward for whom the fans scream, not (british accent speaking) Rob. Thus, a sanity and self saving device to use the American acent.

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Emma said...

Fall is exactly the same as autumn, but a British person would never say fall - well, unless he's been interviewed to death in the US, of course.

I just like Robert sounding British.

Oh who am I kidding, I just like Robert full stop.

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jc said...

@Haystackhair
Totally agree!

A said...

It's also hard if you become an ex-pat, even a part-time one, not to use local terms.

Apartment/flat, elevator/lift, cell/mobile, trunk/boot, call/ring etc.

Oh, and coffee/tea. Not really, but it seems that way. lol

Emma said...

@pining Yes, full stop is the same as "period" in US English.

solas said...

I have a fun time with that all going back and forth from Ireland to US!!! One of the funniest revolves around the term 'fag' which is really obnoxious in US, but means cigarette in Ireland and GB. Someone in Dublin got beaten up for asking to pinch a fag (borrow a cigarette)from a visiting American. And one of my Dubln cousins got strange looks from American guests when she was dying for a cigarette on Sabbath (when smoking is prohibited) and said, I could really go for a fag right now--and the American asked, Whatever for?
then of course is the danger of someone asking you if you want a ride--in Ireland, it is a nasty question!!! Offer someone a lift, instead!
Another funny one is torch-- a friend wanted a torch (flashlight) to check out her daughter's splinter, and an American friend(thinking of a torch as a big stick with a flame on top!) exclaimed-- You want to burn the splinter out???
language, even within variations of English, can be a riot! or cause one! ;-)

Marna said...

I really don't understand the delay on BD, they had Eclipse filmed before NM was even released, but they haven't even green lighted BD yet? It doesn't make any sense, NM came out a year after TW, Eclipse is only 7 months after NM, but at this rate, BD is going to be 2 years after Eclipse. What's the point of doing that?

Anonymous said...

I hate that i don't understand anything he says. You guys can understand everything, i really use my dictonairy sometimes when i read an article.
I wish my english were so much better....
But hey...with my eyes is nothing wrong and i like to stare at Robert....that's good enough.

katie said...

I think both Twilight and NM skimped on the E/B romance. They need to get back on track, no one really cares about Jacob in the end, or archenemy vampires. They just want Kristen and Robert to do their thing onscreen and make the magic happen.

Emma said...

Solas, my favourite linguistic misunderstanding is the word "pants" - trousers in the US, undies in the UK. When I worked in London, I had an American colleague who went around the office talking about how she never wears pants and how skirts are so much more feminine...

solas said...

LOL emma!!!

solas said...

Another funny one is jumper-- in America, it is a sleeveless pinaforetype dress under which one wears a blouse or shirt; in Ireland and UK it is a sweater, usually pullover. So I almost choked when I heard an American viewing a British crime program where the male victim was wearing a jumper, and she immediately assumed he was gay or a transvestite for wearing (what she thought) was a dress!!!

solas said...

marna- as I said above-I think the screenplay,the 1 or 2 movies question, and renesmee are the difficulties.

mohnmarzipan1 said...

I think the reason for BD's delay might be money! The cast originally signed on for three movies... Back then noone of them was very popular or "bankable". So, I think Summit didn't need to give them a lot of money... But now at least Rob & Kristen are super-stars and their management would be quite stupid if they didn't try to use that to get them much better conditions... Those negotiations might take a while.
(Sorry, I'm German, so I unfortunately don't really know the right terms to explain what I mean.... Maybe someone can help me there? What I wanted to say was that the actors probably had to sign an "adhesion contract" for the first three movies - if this is the right term?)

Furthermore they gotta find a director who has the know how to even be able to do Breaking Dawn. And this movie will cost a lot more than the other three if they want to do the book justice... Don't you think?

Emma said...

Robert suggested Gus Van Sant for BD and I do think he'd be perfect.

Mind you it's my least favourite book, I was by turns pissing myself laughing and flinging the book across the room in disgust.

solas said...

I have no idea of the business end of things. So it could be right. I usually think of the creative process and end of things, so I see the script, portrayal, etc, as more of a challenge. But I am afraid money does come into the picture (no pun intended but will take what I can get) with films, and I hope Rob and Kristen can get a good enough deal to not have to worry financially about whatever projects they want to do, and also include other factors such as rest, less strenuous promotion tours, etc

phosphorus said...

@ Emma: I agree with you on both.

Treasure_7 said...

I really loved Eclipse. New Moon I had to cheat and see if Bella was going to be with Edward, because if she wasn't I just wasn't going to want to keep reading.

pauleta said...

Solas
Don't worry for Kristen and Rob.
If kristen got paid 1million for the messenger when she was 16, then i can assure you that her people know how to negociate a contrat.

I really really hope that DS is going to bring an edge to this movie. I was so disapointed with new moon, it has no style for me. Even twilight was more intimate, edgier.
I don't want to watch a movie that look like an episode of gossip girl. I want it more gothic to go with the vampire theme.

And for god sake give us some clever dialogue to this kids some clever dialogue. I'm fully aware that the materiel is week, but makes change where needed

lallieb said...

Solas, loved all you comments about difference between American and English terms and why Rob changes his accent. I keep wondering why no one seems to comment on what an authentic American accent he does and how it sounds NOTHING like his natural voice (referring to RM trailer also). He literally sounds like a totally different person. Guess it's called acting! I think they need to consider a different scriptwriter, I've always had problem with the dialog MR has given them to speak. NM was not my favorite for the reasons others have expressed, but whenever Edward made an appearance I couldn't keep my eyes off him, amber contacts and all (well of course). I agree that BD will ratchet things up a few notches for the film makers, but Reneesme should not be a huge problem in this day of special effects and CGI, come on! Plus I'm thinking there are a some "little people" young people out there who wouldn't mind playing the role. Hopefully, Summit doesn't screw it up with their big heads now.

crazy vamp said...

@ piningforthepretty!

Leg hitch here!! God, I hope they make it good! I think I had Robwardgasms while reading it... ops!
I LMAO at the tent scene. Fortunatelly, when I read the books (back in january) my intelectual DH was giving some lectures in Canada. I could stay awake all night -- night after night -- until I finished the saga. No disapproval face around... ugghh...

crazy vamp said...

Poor DH... I love him -- but he is too serious! ooh man...

pauleta said...

I want to know if i'm the only one here who wish that breacking dawn never see the greenlight?

i mean the story is just a mess and i'm tired of seing this kid trying so hard to give some depht to a story that has none.

I want them to move forward not the contrary.

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femroc said...

Maybe the hold up on BD is how to rate it and how to film "THAT" scene???

Gwen Cooper 426 said...

@ mohnmarzipan1, I think you got it exactly right.

I remember reading that Rob & Kristen had only signed for just 3 movies and I'm betting negotiations are in progress right now. Highly doubt anyone involved would not want Breaking Dawn greenlit, hello MONEY (pretty sure SM signed rights over already, so...). Chances are really good we'll get movie 4 (and/or 5 if it gets split in half; my personal preference. What can I can say? I liked both Twilight AND New Moon---please, Transformers 2? Pirates 3? Spiderman 3? Even Wolverine was merely ok, even with HJ as wonderful as ever. What's my common grief? Hello, I want the FREAKING MAGICAL HAPPY EVER AFTER! And since SM already wrote THAT ending, I've got my fingers crossed that seeing Rob & Kristen & co in action will do it justice.)

And re Solas, ditto on the American/English comments. We were just talking about this yesterday. A friend had a hard time reading Harry Potter because she couldn't grasp the English phrases and references. (I've been reading English-centric stories---and watching BBC tv---for years; it never occurred to me that some Americans aren't exposed to British English.) Yes, Thanksgiving dinner and I spent an enjoyable hour and a half talking Twilight, Rob's hotness...and HP.

And re piningforthepretty, Definitely recommend Dark Side of the Moon. Wonderful!

Barbara said...

I wonder whether the problem with establishing a date for BD centers around its rating. The honeymoon could and should be more than PG13 and most people in the media are still stuck on believing that the majority of the Twilight saga's appeal is to those teens and tweens who couldn't handle anything greater than a PG13.

Breaking BD into two would be phenomenal but only if the romance is emphasized. I am interested in finding out how SM feels about the rating for BD and in which direction she'd like to move.

Weakening the intense emotion between Edward and Bella and not going into explicit detail with their relationship would be a major mistake.

jlsentangledweb said...

Amen to Gwen Cooper! Sometimes my teenage daughter rolls her eyes at the fact that I seem more obsessed than she is, but the truth is, I dragged my feet reading the Twilight books--it took me a full 2 years to think about it, and even then, it was only because I was sick in bed with nothing new to read.
I only bring that up now because that's how I got "introduced" to Edward and then to Rob. I don't know how you all feel about the Twilight books, but I simply tell my daughter that the whole love and eternal devotion theme is not something you stop wanting simply because you've gotten older. Marriage, careers, and children don't dilute that yearning for someone who loves you beyond all boundaries, beyond all logic, beyond all conventions.
Of course, I wasn't expecting anyone to be able to physical manifest the entire concept of Edward...but Rob did, and he did it beautifully. So much so, that I started paying attention to his interviews, and what I saw was someone more intriguing than Edward. Rob is not just his face, he's kind, down to earth, intelligent, witty, and not afraid to make mistakes or speak his mind. When he explains why he doesn't have a Twitter or Facebook account, he answers for himself (while not seeming to insult Facinelli--who was also in a the kind of teen movie that Rob desperately doesn't want to do). Rob is also unafraid to laugh at himself; quite the opposite, as we all know. This is different from most men, who hate feeling or looking foolish in front of others.
This website is my happy place. Thank you to Godze and all everyone else for an amazing site.
I'm taking a page out of your book and promise to stay away from all future trailers for Rob's movies; I want to walk in, sit down, and just watch his performance without anyone's influence or opinions.

solas said...

JLSentagledweb--We have had similar path in this. I had no interest in reading the books as the then 10 year old said it was a vampire-human story and I am so not into vampires. Then my girls took me to Twlight last year for my birthday because THEY wanted to see it (take ma to the movies, get her popcorn and raisnettes, and it covers the birthday present!) I wasn't impressed with the movie, found it quite disjointed, but I was intrigued with the characters and acting,and when my girls said the book was way better, I caved in and read it. And was hooked. And read the next 2 books within 2 days, and waited anxiously for BD to be available. And got the DVd and appreciated it, having read the story by then. And then waiting anxiously for New MOon movie.
You are spot on re Rob. i don't phantasize about him like most seem to, but I already had seen him in GoF and thought hm beautiful; this site has introduced me to his personality via interviews, etc, and he really is a special lovely person.
Now my girls think I am totally nuts (which I may be anyway, and which they probably thought previously); I quickly hide the screen when I am on this site if they are around, and they were horrified to learn I have been returning (a few times) to the theatres to view New Moon. So I cannot talk about it except here! I absolutely love what you told your daughter; I have tried to explain that to my own, but they all just think I am nuts, and have concluded that there probably is no mate or true love for me on this planet because I am so weird, and they decided that is probably why I love the story-because Bella found true love out of the human realm! so they just roll their eyes and accept me, and just love me anyway. /-:

jlsentangledweb said...

Solas, I know what you mean about hiding the screen! I know my kids know about my fascination...ok, obsession, but I really don't think I want them to know how often I sneak over to this site---you know how it is, one window is open to my reports, and minimized (and oh so ready to be tapped) at the bottom, is this site! I can't tell you how many deadlines I've almost missed because of this site. I'm not complaining; it's absolutely worth it--this keeps me sane!

 
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