Acclaimed Film Critic, Richard Roeper, Applauds "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse"

Acclaimed Film Critic, Richard Roeper, Applauds "The Twilight Saga: Eclipse"



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38 comments:

ShariG said...

Well that is great. I have been reading reviews all morning. Glad that Richard Roeper, a critic that I often agreewith, gives Eclipse an A-. Bless him.

nikola6 said...

See what happens when you get a director that the critics respect? It inflences how they perceive something.

I didn't use to think much of Roeper, but over the years, he learned. And that's because he learned at the master's knee...the great Roger Ebert.

Kerri said...

Wow. Im surprised. Most critics hate anything Twilight related. It shouldnt matter to me what they think, because I love it, but ultimately, it does. I want respect for Rob and company including the franchise.

BellaMarie247 said...

Roeper's review certainly raises Eclipse into another strata.
IMO, many more "civilians" will go see it based on his good review.
People who have never given a second thought to the "Twilight" phenom, are looking now!!
And they are in for a treat.

PsympleMind said...

Agreed! Best of the 3 (though I liked all 3 more than Roeper but then I've read the novels a ka-zillion times;-)) so anyway, Eclipse was my fav book in the series...I thought the movie was absolutely perfect, so an A- is a wonderful accolade for this film coming from a pretty great critic...I respect this guy a lot more than some of the others that weigh in on the films YEAYEAYEA

solas said...

Did he comment on Remember Me, and if so what did he say? Because it is nice to be excited about a critic applaudng Eclipse, but Remember Me was a real film, really excellent, and the critics were mostly so negative that even more than usual do I not take anything a critc says for much worth.

solas said...

ok==I just googled him, and I don't thnk he appreciated the film Remember Me much, and wasn't sure Rob could act beyond his hair and brooding looks. So why ought I be excited about anything he says, when he was so offbase wth RM?

Keti said...

I've dragged myself to work this morning after seeing the much anticipated Eclipse - I thought it was brilliant Rob looked
absolutely mouth watering ... Congratulations David Slade - great job!!!!

nikola6 said...

No Solas...

Roeper didn't care for Remember Me. But Ebert did. The thing is, I don't always have to agree with a film critic. But what's bugging me these days is that we have so many internet hacks who are in the critic game and they don't truly understand cinema or the history of it and therefore, I do not believe they are qualified to offer criticism or analysis. Roger Ebert does. And Richard Roeper eventually took over for the equally great Gene Siskel and over the years, Roeper became a more informed critic because of his association with Ebert. He had to in order to keep up with Ebert. So while I might not always agree with him (Roeper), I do respect his opinion.

If you're gonna take it upon yourself to offer up criticism for the masses, then you better have the background, the knowledge of film history to do it. A lot of today's critics wouldn't know the difference between a John Ford master shot and an Alfred Hitchcock close up.

They've just got a lifetime of television informing them, a keyboard and a worldwide mostly uninformed audience on the internet. And nowadays it seems like that's all you need to hang out a shingle and declare yourself open for business.

nikola6 said...

In a nutshell...

What we've got is the uninformed informing the uninformed. Which is why when it comes to the art of cinema, the history of film and thoughtful critical analysis, nobody knows shit from tar anymore.

And sadly, nobody cares.

lemonie said...

I am just so glad David Slade has been vindicated - I remember there was a lot of angst about whether he would keep faith with the book. He is a respected and intelligent film maker and very creative stylistically (just watch some of his music videos) - I always had faith in him. Listening to the interviews he has done re eclipse - its obvious he had it all mapped out in his head before shooting - as there was so little prep time. He is an Actors Director and I believe he pulled out those great performances from the Trinity - I have to say the verdict on Kristen in the first 2 twilight films was always out for me - she seemed very wooden - but thats just my opinion. Slade may have stirred things up (if accounts of the "pick ups" are true) and lost his chosen editor in the end - but what he has done with Eclipse was what the Franchise needed. Okay so the Trinity have matured and grown into the roles - but it takes a great director to really stop things from stagnating and make them all up their game and interpret Melissa Rosenburgs script - by the way whats the verdict on her screenplay?- As Rob has said - its easy to get complacent on a Franchise - New Moon might have been gorgeously Framed and shot - but it seems Mr Slade had the better story and made the most of it. He has kicked the Franchises butt... Now its Bill Cordon's turn to step up to the mark - sounds like he's got a tough act to follow! Congrats David - you did good!

Jane said...

An A-. That is great, of course, I gave it an A++, and Rob was worried about fans not liking the movie.

Lemonless said...

@Lemonie: I agree with you abut the wise move Summit made in finally deciding on David Slade. I'm now wondering how Bill Condon is going to fare with Breaking Dawn. It's such a tricky plot, and now that David Slade has upped the ante I think it's going to be tough for Condon to make his mark without it looking like he's letting the franchise slide...
I know nothing about film, but Gods and Monsters had a much smaller scope, and while it was a good film (and pulled the personal best out of Brendan Fraser) really isn't on the Twi scale.

Cheeky Chops said...

YES, more men in the theaters. WHEW~! For once months of stripping on webcam paid off. Oh, wait. LMAO

Lemonless said...

@Cheeky: what? You or them? (soz, couldn't resist...)

Cheeky Chops said...

Both Darlin'~! ;) Both. LOL

Lemonless said...

@Cheeky: Bwahahaha! Is Skype monitored for content??

Cheeky Chops said...

Hahahahaha hellz to the no. I would have been kicked off long ago. ;)
But, I've been EVERYWHERE. I need a break after this shyte. I soooo deserve a back rub from Robert now~! Oh, from The Jackson too~! :)

lemonie said...

@lemonless (so funny we have names almost the same!) Yeah - I think we should be open minded about Bill Condon - there was a lot of negitive hype when Slade came on board. David has definately upped the ante as you said - but Eclipse, as a story had a lot going for it - Of Course there is action in BD - but its going to need someone with a deft hand to steer part one - lets hope he makes it sexy, beautiful to look at and gets blinding performances from the cast Have to say have only seen Dreamgirls and that is a world away, but Summit knows what the fans want, and hopefully as he was oscar nominated he will bring the same cred to BD as David has to Eclipse!- Lets hope Melissa delivers a great screenplay - that is half the battle- although a lot gets left to the director on its interpetation! Can't believe we're even discussing this with Eclipse still "newborn" haha! How obsessed are we!

Lemonless said...

It's no good, the witching hour approaches so I'm off to find my broom. I've got to earn a living so that I can pay my electricity bill to allow me to keep surfing for Robporn. Glad it broke at least one box office record, but I'm more anxious about the reviews.

Catch up with you all tomorrow, I hope. x

Cheeky Chops said...

Later Chica.

Wait, when you come back; could you tell me where ur at? The witching hour is 3 am.

solas said...

Nk- first of all, I don't require a critic to agree wth me or like everything I like. However, I googled and viewed Roeper's assessment of Remember Me and Rob's acting, and decided he must be dense. You can dislike a film yet understand where it is going, understand the grand scheme and purpose, and can dislike a film whilst still appreciating acting skills.

i agree that today, many don't know their behinds from their elbones, but I see it as even more, especially with critics and ragz, and now blogmakers (not this kind; I mean the a-holes like-Parishilton-who-say-the-most-outlandish things-and-idiots-accept-what-they-say-type.) I see the problem more along the lines of people fancying themselves to be 'king-makers' (or king-breakers, more like assassins); more than Madeleine Forestierre in the book BelAmi, who in a way, (look at the names as well as the ambition for Georges) enjoyed the manipulation and back-handed association of greatness as a king-maker in society. But these modern-day self-appointed king-makers, the critics, blogmasters, and rag writers, are fancying themselves as the determining factor in one's career; if you don't play their game, if you don't kiss their feet (and other parts), they will seek to bring you down, like an armed junta. From what I recall, the critics of previous generation (and guess Ebert is part of that) examined the movies, understood techniques and ideas, and did not seem to actively seek to build or destroy a reputation. Perhaps I am not recalling correctly. In any case, it appears to me that today the critics for the most part do not comprehend much of the film world, and are more self-absorbed as self-made makers or breakers of actors--as I said, king makers or assassins.

evangeline said...

love

Marna said...

Wow, this is a really good review. I'm surprised. I think it's interesting that although the cast always said how much they loved working with CH & CW, they never really said it about David Slade. I got the impression that they didn't like him much. Maybe they were too close to the first 2 directors, & that affected their performances.

Solas, I don't think the fact that he didn't give a good review to RM has anything to do with his review of Eclipse. He's not reviewing Rob, he's reviewing the movies. I like Eclipse, but because of the ending, I am NOT in love with RM. I bought the DVD only for the Rob commentary, & will probably never just watch the movie without it if I even watch it again. As far as I'm concerned, he is spot on with both reviews.

BellaMarie247 said...

@Marna...the ending of RM was the reason the movie worked. It ties together all the shattered pieces of these people's lives into one unendurable immensely emotional moment in time, and gives the audience a glimpse into the real lives of the people we lost that terrible day. Also, it gives hope that there is a way to find some semblance of happiness and a brighter future while remembering the true heart and soul of someone as special as Tyler.

Roger Ebert liked the movie very much, and Rob's performance is as interesting and delicious as it is heartbreaking.

nikola6 said...

Some great analysis yourself there Solas and spot on, I might add.

Yes, in the past critics were more informed about their film history and we had some great critics; Richard Schneckel, Molly Haskel, Roger Ebert, Gene Siskel, Charles Champlin (of the LA Times, the very best in my opinion. His books on film analysis are what got me started on looking at them as an artform and not just as escapist entertainment), Pauline Kael, Tom Shales, Judith Christ, John Simon and these are just off the top of my head. There are so many others. I didn't always agree with them, but these people knew their business.

Today? There's only a handful left. I shudder to think of the mentality that's going to be reviewing films throughout the majority of Rob's career. Scary.

That boy was born about 40 years too late. He should have become a star back in the seventies during the golden age of independent film making. And I suspect that throughout his career, he's going to try to attempt to get back to some of that kind of filmaking. Not sure how much success he's gonna have as modern critics and audiences most likely won't have a clue as to what it is he's trying to do and in some cases, I can see him financially investing himself if he can't raise the money. If it's something he believes in...yeah.

What do you want to bet he's going to have a hand in getting this K 11 (is that what it's called?) that Kristen and her mother cannot get financed, that he's gonna help get it off the ground? I'm a guessing.

nikola6 said...

BellaMarie...

Some people just could not take that ending as they saw it as explotive. It wasn't. But that's how it was interpreted.

But too, I think that maybe it was a bit too soon for this subject matter as were not even 10 years removed from that day. But I also think that this is one of those films that is going to be more appreciated with the passage of time.

I just think that some had a knee jerk reaction to it and they dismissed it. And those who didn't even bother to see it? They heard about the ending and passed. Some just cannot go there yet and I do understand that.

But someone had to kick the door down with this subject matter and this film was the one to do it. And for that alone, it is important. Just an opinion.

Will be interesting to see how it does on DVD. My guess? Better than it did in the theatres.

BellaMarie247 said...

Hey, Nik..I surely do agree with you there. I had no idea what the ending was and had a bit of a melt-down which lasted for hours afterwards.
Many more people will see the DVD now, and I'm hoping they get the intention presented at the end...that life is so very precious and no one is ever forgotten if you keep them in your heart.

Laurie said...

solas,

From what little I have observed, Roeper doesn't read, Ebert does. All the difference in the world in reviews involving films made from books. That is why his favorable review of Eclipse is surprising to me. It must be entertaining. I'm going tomorrow to see it.

Films such as RM which are more like books than "action" or "entertaining" films I would guess that Roeper wouldn't like.

Capitu ~ said...

I promise I'm not giving any spoilers, but DAMN IT! I loved Eclipse!

Honestly, I was not expecting so much of it. It was made in a hurry; or so I thought.
I wish David could direct both BD movies. He is not just a director that most critics respect... but I damn good one! The beginning and all the action scenes... wow!

Even the way too short bed scene... Better shut my mouth now...

And, oh!, my Beloved man looked good in it... His smirks are so hot that hurt!
*swoon*
=)

solas said...

Thanks, Laure; that is an interesting insight.

Marna said...

I am definitely one of the people who thought the ending of RM was explotive. Without turning this into the whole argument there was when the movie came out, I have no problem if Tyler ***SPOILER***

dies, but the fact that they used 9/11 instead of a car accident or a mugging, or something not so dramatic just kind of screamed LOOK! POOR TYLER IS DEAD. They only used it for the big gut wrench it would give people. Did we see any other evidence of 9/11? Did we see other people's grief or just the general fear people had afterward? NO. It was like nothing else happened besides Tyler dying. That's why I think it was explotive.

nikola6 said...

SOME SPOILER HERE ALTHOUGH IS THERE ANYONE LEFT HERE WHO HASN'T SEEN "REMEMBER ME" AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT BY THIS TIME, ARE YOU GOING TO? WHATEVER...SOME SPOILER IN THIS POST!!!

Marna...

I don't want to get in any kind of an argument either but I would like to point a few things out...

From the opening shot of the film (in which they told us it was
"1991") on that train platform with the twin towers in the background, the stage was set for this story. At the opening of the next scene (Tyler's apt.), they told us "ten years later". Which would put us in the year
2001. We know we are in NYC. We know that it's summer because Caroline's school year comes to an end and they talk about going out to the beach for labor day which is in September. The film drops bread crumbs the whole way. This was not a sucker punch ending, but you had to be paying attention.

And even the ending which I read that one critic (and I use that word loosely) said, they couldn't come up with an ending so they just tacked on 9/11 as an afterthought. And I thought...

What an ass. How could that critic think that these filmmakers (the producers, the director, the writer, the actors) could be that insensitive to be involved in such an endeavor?

And as for that out of the blue ending...that's EXACTLY how that day played out in real life. No one got a memo on this. As in the film, this nightmare hit us out of the blue. And where Will Fetters got the idea for this story was, as a native New Yorker, he said he spent weeks and weeks reading the obits and wondering about the lives, the simple lives of these ordinary people and how and why they were taken from us in this horrible way. Why?

He was only about 21 when he began writing this story and he just wanted to tell one story about one ordinary life that was taken in this tragedy. And that his hope was that this one life, this one story could be representative of all those lives taken. He wrote it as a homage to all of them. There was NOTHING exploitive about this from beginning to end.

And as troubled as Tyler was, by the morning of that day, many problems in his life had been resolved or were on their way to being and so...that boy died at peace. And that was the only way that it was bearable.

This is a story of redemptive love and of...forgiveness. It is a beautiful film and despite a lot of the public missing the message of it because they only saw explotation, I would hope that Rob will always be proud of it. It was the first film he helped to produce and so obviously, it meant a lot to him and he must have believed in it's message.

Interestingly, while I suppose there were many New Yorkers who could not watch and maybe they saw exploitation too, so many did not. Many New Yorkers saw this film for what is was meant to be and they embraced it. Even some 9/11 families.

I so wish you would give it one more chance. Sometimes when we look at something a second time, we see more. Not always. But sometimes.

RobsessiveFILRP said...

@nik I have watched RM and I totally can say that I am impressed by the story and tyler

solas said...

Nk--I saw the attacks on NY n 9-11; I knew it was a terror attack and I knew who was behind them when the news reporters (after the frst plane hit) still thought it was an accident; had family involved on dfferent levels and lost friends (one a former student), and I thought Remember Me was one of the best films I have ever seen, an homage to those lost, and I really felt people who thought it was tacked on at the end, or that it was exploitive, simply did not pay attention to the flm very well. And everyone in my family and amongst my friends who lived it felt the same way.

solas said...

And so, when I read comments by a 'critic' who I would have expected would have had some better ability or persepctive on film-making and on messages in scripts in movies, how to see hints of themes, totally miss what was fairly obvious, then I really have to wonder about the ablities of teh crtic n general, and have to conclude that he either just doesn't 'get' stuff very well (and is in the line of move critic either because most films are so superficial that he can get by without inference and other critical thinking skill abilities), or that he got the position by nepotsm or pity, or that he is blinded by some other factor such as jealousy or resentment.

jmm4832 said...

To me RM is a very touching story, and I think the film led up to the ending and it wasn't a surprise. It was about living one's life to the fullest and telling your loved ones how much you love them because it can all be taken away in an instant. And it was entirely appropriate because all of the people who died in 911 had an important life.

Cheeky Chops said...

It was not about 9/11. It was about a young man. Nuff said.

 
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